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| Thread ID: 70313 | 2006-06-28 23:46:00 | Which uses more fuel ? | SKT174 (1319) | PC World Chat |
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| 467201 | 2006-07-01 22:25:00 | I'm getting confused here . Some of the comments on power steering i find a little strange . . . OK, i prefer older vehicles that don't have it . I don't need to check my tyres for unbalanced wear every time i start up because if the alignment was out, i'd have to put my back into turning the wheel, or it just wouldn't feel right . Esmarelda the truck steers with ease, so did all my HQs as long as the wheel alignment was good . If it took effort to turn the wheel, the HQ needed steering alignment . It was that simple . I'd know long before i'd chewed a pair of front tyres out . When i drive newer vehicles, i generally can't tell if they have power steering unless i open the bonnet . A friend of mine who is not mechanicly minded complained she was going through tyres really fast, but couldn't understand how come it was still easy to drive . Of course she had power steering that made forcing the wheels round poor geometry a breeze . I consider it a false security as in difficult conditions, the car would not handle well no matter how easy the power steering made spinning the steering wheel . One of the first vehicles i drove that had power steering was a good decade or 2 ago . I was hitchhiking down to the South Island from AK, and the driver who stopped for me had had enough of driving, and asked me to drive for him . The vehicle was some Jag, he said it had 12 cylinders, and prattled on some try-hard status orientated waffle about how flash it was . I thought i was having incredible luck, but the power steering was so sensitive that it was hard to keep the vehicle going in a strait line . It was horrible to drive . The slightest movement would send the vehicle on a sharp turn, or at least the next lane . Too much effort was needed just to avoid that sort of thing . Power steering? No sir, i don't like it . |
personthingy (1670) | ||
| 467202 | 2006-07-02 07:50:00 | No! I want an AstonDB with red stripes. :-) If it don't have RED stripes it will not go as fast. I have seen Beetles' vehicle and it does not have RED stripes. Neither does mine for that matter. White stripes are not cool and RED stripes make the vehicle go faster. I thought everyone knew that. Hmm, maybe it looks fast but the engine in Ford GT is capable of hitting high speed in no time.:D That beast was made to destory Ferrari. lol. In 1960. That car was well known around the World that time. |
MTLance (6768) | ||
| 467203 | 2006-07-02 08:00:00 | One of the first vehicles i drove that had power steering was a good decade or 2 ago. I was hitchhiking down to the South Island from AK, and the driver who stopped for me had had enough of driving, and asked me to drive for him. The vehicle was some Jag, he said it had 12 cylinders, and prattled on some try-hard status orientated waffle about how flash it was. I thought i was having incredible luck, but the power steering was so sensitive that it was hard to keep the vehicle going in a strait line. It was horrible to drive. The slightest movement would send the vehicle on a sharp turn, or at least the next lane. Too much effort was needed just to avoid that sort of thing. Power steering? No sir, i don't like it. 12 Cylinders? You must be joking right? No drivers wanted to stop for hitchhiker with his 12 cyclinder car. |
MTLance (6768) | ||
| 467204 | 2006-07-02 08:10:00 | 12 Cylinders? You must be joking right? No, i wasn't joking. The car certainly had enough bonnet to be housing a V12, or a strait 8 for that matter. People with large overpowered cars do pick up hitchhikers... I used to in the V8 whenever i saw any. I still would in my truck, if i saw any, but i don't. Maybe they run and hide when they see me coming :p |
personthingy (1670) | ||
| 467205 | 2006-07-02 08:26:00 | No, i wasn't joking. The car certainly had enough bonnet to be housing a V12, or a strait 8 for that matter. People with large overpowered cars do pick up hitchhikers... I used to in the V8 whenever i saw any. I still would in my truck, if i saw any, but i don't. Maybe they run and hide when they see me coming :p You must be damn lucky. Does that guy speed? I mean doing 200km/h on the road. But some people don't pickup hitchhikers in their life. About power steering, every sports car should have it because it is easier for them to make a fast sharp conner turn. Rather than steer steer steer and then crashed. |
MTLance (6768) | ||
| 467206 | 2006-07-02 08:31:00 | You must be damn lucky. Does that guy speed? I have no idea if he speeds, he stopped in front of me and my girlfriend, and asked me if i would drive. I drove us to Wellington if i remember correctly. It was a long time ago. | personthingy (1670) | ||
| 467207 | 2006-07-02 08:36:00 | I have no idea if he speeds, he stopped in front of me and my girlfriend, and asked me if i would drive. I drove us to Wellington if i remember correctly. It was a long time ago. Some people did speed their car. I mean with that powerful engine, could be wasted for some people if they didn't speed. Even grandpa's did do speeding in their old exotics these days. :DThey must have reminded themselves when they are young in that exotic. Just like old days for them. | MTLance (6768) | ||
| 467208 | 2006-07-02 08:50:00 | some of the old power stearing was crap. afaik the pumps wherenot constant presure so the steering got lighter the faster you drove. When i drive newer vehicles, i generally can't tell if they have power steering unless i open the bonnet. which is how it should be, you shouldn't be able to tell when driving. the only time you really notice is when doing tight turns at slow speed ie parking, 3 point turns etc. even with power steering you can tell when the alainment is out. it will get harder and the handling goes to crap. for those you can't tell the difference...... well that says something about your driving ability. actually you usually find when you set a vechile up to handle well the steering becomes very heavy. old race cars before the power steering was around used to use little gear boxes on the steering like old trucks. to turn the corner you had to wind the steering wheel right around a few times!! power steering was a godsend to race car drivers. basicly just because the steering is heavy dosn't automaticly mean the alignment is out. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 467209 | 2006-07-02 09:03:00 | My trip computer is currently giving a reading of 14.2 km per litre. Should we assume its wrong?, Its pretty much exact when it tells me what range I have left.... Are you sure that is not 14.2km per 100 Litres Metla, which is the standard measurement for fuel economy? That works out at 20MPG which would be about right for a 4 litre 6 running around town. I'm not having a dig at you here, I am genuinely interested in this because the alternative (14.2km/L) is around 40mpg and quite frankly that is unlikely to be achieved by even a 1.5 litre car. RACV road tests gave the 4L Falcon 9.6L/100km (30mpg) on the open road cycle, to 13.9L/100k (20mpg) on the city cycle. Equivalent figures for a 1.8L Corolla were city, 27.5mpg and country, 38mpg. A 1.6 litre Civic recorded 31mpg and 36.5mpg. I have great difficulty in believing that anybody could pedal a large 4 litre car around town, even Wanganui, and achieve significantly better fuel economy than a 1.6 or 1.8 litre vehicle on the same route. Even the most economical vehicle I could find (Mazda 121 1.3L) apparently can't beat your 4L Falcon around town (35mpg) but at least it would cream it on the open road cycle (47mpg). Sounds like your trip computer is definitely reading in litres per 100km, but if not, I'd love to know your economy driving techniques. Of course you could just be taking the pi** :D Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 467210 | 2006-07-02 09:11:00 | some of the old power stearing was crap. afaik the pumps wherenot constant presure so the steering got lighter the faster you drove. When i drive newer vehicles, i generally can't tell if they have power steering unless i open the bonnet. which is how it should be, you shouldn't be able to tell when driving. the only time you really notice is when doing tight turns at slow speed ie parking, 3 point turns etc. even with power steering you can tell when the alainment is out. it will get harder and the handling goes to crap. for those you can't tell the difference...... well that says something about your driving ability. actually you usually find when you set a vechile up to handle well the steering becomes very heavy. old race cars before the power steering was around used to use little gear boxes on the steering like old trucks. to turn the corner you had to wind the steering wheel right around a few times!! power steering was a godsend to race car drivers. basicly just because the steering is heavy dosn't automaticly mean the alignment is out. Power Steering is used in Heavy Vehicles and race cars. No big deal about that. I agree that old cars only can do speeding well in straight road not tight roads. :D Except some grandpa's modified it. |
MTLance (6768) | ||
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