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Thread ID: 93186 2008-09-07 01:17:00 Major system problems - mobo dying? Tony (4941) Press F1
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703136 2008-09-10 02:46:00 I have emails in to both AMD and ASUS, but I'm not hugely hopeful of a response.

RMA, Return Materials Authorisation.
Send it back, it has a 3 yr warranty.
pctek (84)
703137 2008-09-10 05:45:00 Send it back, it has a 3 yr warranty.That will be a last resort, of course. I want to make sure I've exhausted all other avenues and totally eliminated software/BIOS etc as the problem before I do that. I guess you think I am at that point now, but there seems to me to be faint possibility that a BIOS tweak or something of that nature will sort it. Fortunately I do have the PC I am using now, so it is not as if I am totally desperate (not in this area, anyway. :) ) Tony (4941)
703138 2008-09-10 06:21:00 Just reading a earlier thread in this post #11 where you say "If I leave the system idle for a while, it will fail all by itself. "

With the PC running, click on start orb, in the search type in eventvwr <Enter> have a look through the event logs, both applications and system, look to see if an error was created, open it and see if it says anything useful as to what may have crashed, Eg: numbers, component etc.

Also notice in Post #1 "The weird thing is that Vista runs OK in safe mode" still could be a faulty board, as it has been known for even default drivers that windows Loads to play sillies if there is a suspect component on the board.
wainuitech (129)
703139 2008-09-10 07:31:00 Maybe a daft question but if shuts down after a while is it overheating? gary67 (56)
703140 2008-09-10 09:06:00 Maybe a daft question but if shuts down after a while is it overheating?Not daft at all - I considered the same thing myself, but there is no other evidence that that is the case, and it also fails under oher circumstances as well. Tony (4941)
703141 2008-09-10 09:22:00 Have a look through the event logs, both applications and system, look to see if an error was created, open it and see if it says anything useful as to what may have crashed, Eg: numbers, component etc.Good idea. I've had a look at the logs and there are a lot of warnings etc, but they seem to after the event of the crash, rather than before. I've cleared them and I will have another look after the next BSOD and see if anything looks clearer. Tony (4941)
703142 2008-09-10 21:54:00 Nothing obvious in the event logs - everything just seems to stop.

I've (finally!) installed the correct Nvidia driver updates - made no difference, alas.

I've tried various RAM configurations (amount and slots) - no difference.

I had responses quite quickly from both AMD and ASUS - neither particularly helpful, but asking for more info.

Two things I've noticed:

The "windows experience" tests will run through to completion without falling over.
A sure-fire way to cause a failure is to try to start system restore - it fails almost immediately.
Tony (4941)
703143 2008-09-16 21:50:00 I've now installed a different processor - the problems are exactly the same.

So, I guess it looks like the mobo - unless anyone has some new brilliant idea.

:confused:
Tony (4941)
703144 2008-09-20 05:21:00 So how weird is this?


The system was collapsing as described with monotonous and predictable regularity.
On a whim, I installed XP Home (instead of Vista Business), and everything worked OK!
After giving the system a workout with no errors, I reinstalled Vista business in a formatted partition - and that worked OK as well! No hardware changes, the only thing I did was a clean OS install - which I had done many times before during this exercise.
Once again, after a bit of testing, I removed the replacement processor and re-installed the original - and everything still works.
I've now also reinstalled the HD4850 video card and the drivers, and everything is still fine.


So I've gone from a totally crippled machine with a suspect mobo to a fine and healthy beast, and the only thing I have done is changed the OS and then changed it back - each time to a clean partition.

So the hardware hasn't changed, the software is as it was, but now it all works.

One part of me says "Whoopee!", but the more analytical part is deeply suspicious, and just waiting for it all to turn to custard again.

Any insight into what might be happening would be welcomed with open arms.

Of course Murphy's law had to strike - I have new mobo winging in my direction as I write, which it looks like maybe I won't now need.
Tony (4941)
703145 2008-09-20 06:28:00 I have experienced this sort of thing. I use MN2MX-SE boards in similar ways, my routine is FDISK and a clean new install. It saves wearing egg with RMA requests. PENTIUM (426)
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