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Thread ID: 93296	2008-09-11 03:23:00	Windows Vista OEM question	music_man (5482)	Press F1

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704350	2008-09-11 03:23:00	Hi, Regarding this: ascent.co.nz According to Ascent, you don't need to have the OEM software preinstalled with the hardware. My question is, could I buy this, install it on my Mac under Bootcamp and it be legal?	music_man (5482)
704351	2008-09-11 03:33:00	Hi, Regarding this: ascent.co.nz According to Ascent, you don't need to have the OEM software preinstalled with the hardware. My question is, could I buy this, install it on my Mac under Bootcamp and it be legal? Technically it would be illegal to sell it to the end user without a critical hardware component. But I have had this argument with Microsoft before and they don't seem to care if someone is using OEM software when they aren't supposed to. As long as it is a legal copy then they are happy.	CYaBro (73)
704352	2008-09-11 03:38:00	A couple of emails: Hi, Just wondering how you sell OEM versions. Aren't they only allowed to be sold with the hardware? Cheers, Hi It used to be a condition, yes, but not any longer. Regards And As far as OEM versions going onto PCs, it must be a completely new machine/hard drive, or else, a completely reformatted hard drive. Maybe something has changed?	music_man (5482)
704353	2008-09-11 03:55:00	The OEM Licensing has changed slightly - BUT Accent are bending the rules so to speak. The wording is still a little confusing as it actually now states OEM SYSTEM builders. Here is the main gist of the licensing that applies OEM system builder software packs are intended for PC and server manufacturers or assemblers ONLY. They are not intended for distribution to end users. Unless the end user is actually assembling his/her own PC, in which case, that end user is considered a system builder as well. [emphasis added] So as you can see legally they still cant sell it on its own for an existing PC - the purchaser is still meant to install it in a new PC or components that apply. The last statement in bold ( I assume its from Ascent) As far as OEM versions going onto PCs, it must be a completely new machine/hard drive, or else, a completely reformatted hard drive. Since when does formatting an existing Hard Drive qualify it as being a NEW hard Drive - Thats really pushing it / bending the rules :illogical PS: like several other members of PF1 I am a System Builder/reseller, Run own PC Business. I Have copies OEM of Vista & XP and the licensing clearly states on the box only to be supplied with a new PC.	wainuitech (129)
704354	2008-09-11 03:58:00	Ah this takes me back In the day I used to buy OEM windows copies with a power cord to get around the hardware requirement. I have so many power cords.	kersonan (13264)
704355	2008-09-11 04:23:00	:lol: I avoided it altogether by buying an upgrade copy. Installing Vista twice took about the same time as installing XP once. :D	pcuser42 (130)
704356	2008-09-11 11:30:00	from what I remember when I compared OEM and retail version, what concern me the most was how you're not really suppose to re-install OEM on a second machine if your original one died. so after OEM installed on machines A, and machine A dies so machine B is built, you can't use the OEM again since it was for the previous system. so not suppose to use it on a different build. um..correct me if this is wrong	heni72847 (1166)
704357	2008-09-11 14:10:00	from what I remember when I compared OEM and retail version, what concern me the most was how you're not really suppose to re-install OEM on a second machine if your original one died. so after OEM installed on machines A, and machine A dies so machine B is built, you can't use the OEM again since it was for the previous system. so not suppose to use it on a different build. um..correct me if this is wrong Probably, but they can't stop you, or prove that you're doing anything wrong. Still better than pirating it. Or maybe it's just you can't run it on both A and B at once. Which applies to any version that isn't using a volume licence	Agent_24 (57)
704358	2008-09-11 21:38:00	I heard that Vista OEM links its license to your motherboard, so if you change computers, you cannot reactivate.	music_man (5482)
704359	2008-09-11 21:51:00	Technically its naughty. However I don't have a problem with it. All my suppliers sell OEM only, not retail copies. Its just MSs way of making even more money, after all, there is no difference between OEM and Retail other than packaging and the license agreements. So long as you paid for it, so what.	pctek (84)
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