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| Thread ID: 71163 | 2006-07-28 06:03:00 | NZ'S Broadband Future Is Fibre | Utopia (7787) | PC World Chat |
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| 474327 | 2006-07-29 06:36:00 | Have you thought of moving to Auckland PCtek? It's SUCH a lovely city :D LOL :D :eek: :p |
stu161204 (123) | ||
| 474328 | 2006-08-01 01:51:00 | Having done nothing after Wgtn and ChCh why would TestraClear start making plans now? They seem quite happy reselling Telecom. AFAIK Telecom had plans to have replaced its existing PSTN by around 2012 which included plans for FTTC starting well before then. As I have posted before, lets not forget the Auckland City Council stopped Telstra laying cable as they looked "ugly" when attached to power poles (where there are no poles it was to be laid underground). Forcing Telstra to lay all underground made it not a viable project. No one in Auckland seems to be mad at this, or is it just embarrassment, it basically stuffed broadband competition for the entire country!. Anyway ill just get back to my 10Mb connection here in CHCH. I really notice those "ugly" cable on the poles while driving around NOT! |
Master_Frost (9951) | ||
| 474329 | 2006-08-01 06:19:00 | But many people do notice them. Those who look out of their windows and see those ugly wires. Those who go for a walk in their neighbourhood. And they complain to their councils. They also vote for their councils. It's called "democracy", I think. (Some of them also have connections through the cables). Cable ompanies want to use the pre-existing poles because it's a lot cheaper for them. Unfortunately for them , almost all cities have a policy that all services go underground when possible. If the power goes underground, the poles will be pulled out. |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 474330 | 2006-08-01 06:28:00 | I have a feeling that the future is far more likely to be high speed wireless, which should be reasonably advanced by the time somebody decides to lay down fiber cables. The cost of blanketing a city in wireless would probably be the same price or cheaper than laying fiber cables everywhere, and much more appealing as a product. | imarubberducky (7230) | ||
| 474331 | 2006-08-01 06:34:00 | But many people do notice them. Those who look out of their windows and see those ugly wires. Those who go for a walk in their neighbourhood. And they complain to their councils. They also vote for their councils. It's called "democracy", I think. (Some of them also have connections through the cables). Cable companies want to use the pre-existing poles because it's a lot cheaper for them. Unfortunately for them , almost all cities have a policy that all services go underground when possible. If the power goes underground, the poles will be pulled out. What the hell are you talking about, the power lines are already ugly, slinging another cable underneath makes no difference. Put them underground when (if) the power cables go under, that's what CHCH and Wellington decided as they had half a brain and released decent (competition) broadband/Telephone services was more important than "slightly" uglier power poles. Very lame decision, I hope you are enjoying your monopolistic DSL in Auckland. Wellington and CHCH are far prettier cities than Auckland (my opinion) and I don't see people pointing and staring at fibre cables there lol. Democary can be an ass sometimes. |
Battleneter (60) | ||
| 474332 | 2006-08-01 06:44:00 | What the hell are you talking about, the power lines are already ugly, slinging another cable underneath makes no difference. Put them underground when (if) the power cables go under, that's what CHCH and Wellington decided as they had half a brain and released decent (competition) broadband/Telephone services was more important than "slightly" uglier power poles. Very lame decision, I hope you are enjoying your monopolistic DSL in Auckland. Wellington and CHCH are far prettier cities than Auckland (my opinion) and I don't see people pointing and staring at fibre cables there lol. Democary can be an ass sometimes. The residents in Kandallah were one of the biggest opponents of the telstra cable being strung up they also complained when telecom strung up fibre through there suburb. and it would be the likes of those residents that are complaining about the crap speed |
plod (107) | ||
| 474333 | 2006-08-01 06:46:00 | I have a feeling that the future is far more likely to be high speed wireless, which should be reasonably advanced by the time somebody decides to lay down fiber cables. The cost of blanketing a city in wireless would probably be the same price or cheaper than laying fiber cables everywhere, and much more appealing as a product. Nope, latency is to high, wireless can never overcome this. Fibre will always be a lot faster, hence most of the developing countries in Asia are laying fibre like crazy. As for ADSL2+ (24MB) suffers massive speed drop offs further from the exchange you get. There is a wide believe the current Telstra Network in place right "now" in Wellington and CHCH is capable of delivering up to 100Mb into residential homes (with a recent network upgrade). Only thing stopping then I would think is lack of motivation to do it (no competition). I believe they will increase speeds well above Telecom's 24MB ADSL2 (if you are sitting on the exchange) just to pip them. |
Battleneter (60) | ||
| 474334 | 2006-08-01 08:15:00 | What the hell are you talking about, the power lines are already ugly, slinging another cable underneath makes no difference . Put them underground when (if) the power cables go under, that's what CHCH and Wellington decided as they had half a brain and released decent (competition) broadband/Telephone services was more important than "slightly" uglier power poles . Saturn/Clear had the smarts just put up the suspension wire, telephone cable and 1 Coax in our area . Once everyone relaxed the rest of the bundle was added so it's now about 3 times the initial diameter . Not so bad if you live below the road but it's right in your line of sight if you are on the uphill side . |
PaulD (232) | ||
| 474335 | 2006-08-01 08:17:00 | There are many misconceptions about wireless. some providers out there in the real world use wireless backhaul without problems with latency and the WiMax standard offers far more, in terms of bang for buck, than fibre. If the Ministry of Economic Development revisits the 2010 end date for 2.3 gig spectrum licences to allow Woosh to go ahead with its deployment then we will all be better off. Some info on WiMax here. www.frost.com |
JackStraw (6573) | ||
| 474336 | 2006-08-01 10:45:00 | There are many misconceptions about wireless. some providers out there in the real world use wireless backhaul without problems with latency and the WiMax standard offers far more, in terms of bang for buck, than fibre. If the Ministry of Economic Development revisits the 2010 end date for 2.3 gig spectrum licences to allow Woosh to go ahead with its deployment then we will all be better off. Some info on WiMax here. www.frost.com Wireless has a big future no argument. Woosh on the other hand seems to get bad review after bad review, they do know how to get into debt however lol. There is a good reason why cable is used as "primary" backhaul both nationally and internationally opposed to wireless and it is not just line of sight. It carries far more capacity, not influenced by the weather and other electronic noise. Fibre is FAR more reliable, data travels through a controlled light speed inviornment, wireless can never match this. Recent research has demonstrated it is possible to speed up the speed of light down a optical fibre which opens the doors expodentially for fibre even useing the current layed cable. www.eurekalert.org |
Battleneter (60) | ||
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