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Thread ID: 71305	2006-08-02 00:41:00	He was only three years old ... killed by his parents.	KiwiTT_NZ (233)	PC World Chat

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475338	2006-08-02 09:45:00	Just another consequence which is a predicted result and legacy of the right wing economic policies employed in New Zealand for the last 25 years. Condemning a certain proportion of the population to permanent poverty with no way out is a main driving factor in the despair that people feel. Hopelessness and the same old grind year in year out leave people frustrated and turning to crime and drugs from a young age as the news of the situation they are in permeates and filters down to all in the population and each successive generation learns of the exploitative situation they have inherited and the likely bleak future for at least a quarter of their number. This will get worse. Bad management of the country is the root cause, slavishly following solutions not tailored to specifically suit New Zealands unique needs is a big part of that. The social unrest we are seeing was forseen by those with any common sense years ago as we embarked on the ridiculous quest for a right wing capitalist utopia. The mongrels (derogatory term for a variation that is not genuine; something irregular or inferior or of dubious origin) in our society have been created, they are not born this way.	zqwerty (97)
475339	2006-08-02 09:54:00	Uh, No one in NZ is condemed to poverty, Infact you would have to go well out of your way to be too poor to eat. You don't get anywhere unless you apply at least a little effort, and there is millions being poured into schemes for those that want to apply that effort, and millions wasted on people who refuse to get off their backside to break the cycle but will spit out blame for their position on the rest of the country without hesitation. Get out of bed, get a job, look after the wife and kids.	Metla (12)
475340	2006-08-02 09:57:00	"Man does not live by bread alone", I forget who said that. Oh that's right: Meaning Physical nourishment is not sufficient for a healthy life; man also has spiritual needs. Origin From the Bible - Deuteronomy 8: 2-3 (King James Version): And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live. also in Matthew 4:4: But he answered and said, it is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. and Luke 4:4: And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. Thanks Google. PS. I am a non-theist.	zqwerty (97)
475341	2006-08-02 09:57:00	O great... Lets blame the government and "poverty" OK, here we are with less than 3 % unemployment, and the excuse of being jobless getting less and less tolerance from welfare services when people come to them for free money.... And so it should be. People may not choose there own starting points in life, but people choose where we go from there. Even Junkies with a $2000/week habit blame poverty. The poverty excuse is getting a bit thin. Some here may remember the times when life actually was hard, and yet this sort of thing was far rarer. So if there was more money, maybe the kid would have been beaten to death with a more expensive bat? I rarely don't see what difference it would make.	personthingy (1670)
475342	2006-08-02 10:01:00	The parents of this kid should get beaten to death. End of story.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
475343	2006-08-02 10:04:00	The unemployment rate is far, far higher than that, more like 12%-15%, they are hiding the true figure with employment schemes and suchlike.	zqwerty (97)
475344	2006-08-02 10:08:00	The parents of this kid should get beaten to death. End of story. Show the parents the wrongness of violence by using violence against them? Don't know their backgrounds, but I would bet they had violence against them when they were young. So they thought it was quite normal to beat the little one to death. Violence begets violence begets violence.	vinref (6194)
475345	2006-08-02 10:11:00	Uh, No one in NZ is condemned to poverty, In fact you would have to go well out of your way to be too poor to eat . I'm going to disagree with you there Metla, truth is you don't have to go very far out of your way in NZ to be too poor to eat . There's a Pub or a TAB on just about every corner, and full use is made of them by those who plead poverty, and think that child-beating is a contact sport . Billy	Billy T (70)
475346	2006-08-02 10:46:00	Works been slack for me as there's few shows needing crews in winter . I've fallen back on the dole for a handout of free money stolen from the useful just because i can . As it turned out i was offered a course which i couldn't refuse, but seeing all the useless moronic ****heads who were bleating every possible excuse why they are being ripped off by being on the dole and hard done by by being forced to up skill before being sent into the workforce to be exploited was hilarious I only just managed to contain the laughter . O the poor, o the repressed, o the hard done by . . . HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA O that's right, poverty is to blame . And anyway, i once knew a hippy chick who refused to live in a normal house, take money from the system, and for all intensive purposes may as well have lived in a cave, yet she looked after her child . Its not money or the lack of that is the problem, it is individual attitude, it's the philosophy that if you keep hitting him, then that will learn him . As it turned out, he'll never **** himself again, so it must have worked .	personthingy (1670)
475347	2006-08-02 10:58:00	Id say that with the benefits and extra assistance available and what you might call judicoius management no-one need to be poor in NZ, but unemployment is not only about finances. As a comfortably off middle class middle age pakeha born and brought up in times of full employment and good health and dental care I consider myself lucky. Now that unempolyment is entreched as a tool of economic management I feel sympathy for those forcibly kept out of the workforce. No job, no prospects and no future in a country where they are surrounded by (in world terms) abundant wealth. Then to be told over and over again that you are useless and a bludger and an inerior sort of person is going to mess with your head until many will break. And lash out. I'm not excusing it. I am appalled by child abuse but I don't beleive these rants by people I can only suppose to be very similar to me are doing any good at all. I wonder about the motives of some of the posters. Is this going to stop any child being beaten? Are all these cries for bullets and lashings going to help any child at all? I don't think so and it dissappoints me to see this forum become a venue for revernge and hatred and abuse by those, who as I have said, are probably as lucky as I am. Sure we worked and work, what's the big deal? Would you prefer to be unemployed? Sweet dreams..........m	mark c (247)
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