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Thread ID: 143150	2016-12-03 18:17:00	Odoriferousness Problem-tastic!	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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1429390	2016-12-03 18:17:00	Odor Problem Here! Just thought youse guys would have an idea or two how to get rid of this problem . I posted this on a couple of GM/Chevy Truck sites so far and no results other than a boneyard (NZ= juunk yaurd) Picked up a 96 C1500 GMC Yukon, red, 5 . 7 Vortec, 700R, great paint, super straight bod and 16" Jackman (?) rims including the spare . $300 . 00 Yup . The trouble: blown engine - so said the owner - they had partially torn down until they couldn't figure out how to remove the thermofan -and they parked it in a field for 9 years --- and get this part: with all the windows open--- in Montana --- with snow, rain, woodland creatures and pine cones blowing through it . The REAL PROBLEM was the intake gaskets had slipped and the inner cylinders were sucking air . To date: got and installed a new (not reman!) Crate 5 . 7 Vortec full-roller engine (Jegs), new update MPFI to MSI Conversion Spider, all the other necessary stuff (water pump, serpentine, hoses, Corbin Clamps throughout, IronWerks exhaust manifolds, new O2 sensors and vacuum lines, etc . * BTW, the fan clutch and transmission was new/rebuilt at/about the time they parked it for nine years . The fuel pump was DOA and was replaced w/new including the prerequisite new fuel filter . Fuel tank had 20 gallons of varnish - or whatever 9 year old gas turns into after that time . The BIG problem: all the little woodland animals thought it was their personal condominium and prolly sent a few generations of woodland babies to college from that residence . Unfortunately, woodland beasties like to urinate on, in, all over, through and around their cubby holes . The carpet - gone, wasted, urine soaked and now double gone (burned, actually) with a new one in the box . . . . . waiting . The seats - stripped to metal, reupholstery in OE fabric, new foam . . . waiting to install . Sun visors - new, waiting too . Dashboard - cleaned up nicely . Heater core - new - was blown up from repeated freeze-thaws over 9 years . Tires - new 265/75R16, x5 (old ones would NOT return to round!) Headlights, frosted, yellow & opaque - replaced w/real glass and LED Hi beams . AC - R134a recharged, works great . Door hinge pins/bushings - new New Deep Cycle Ortho battery . ALL 10 speakers, chewed, urine glued - replaced for many $$$$s Gawd! Stereo - WAS Cassette/AM/FM - replaced with USB/SD/FM/Bluefang unit . Nice pretty colored LEDs in removable faceplate . Kewl . SOUNDS GREAT . Kewl - x2! Paint - buffed out very nicely . Another Kewl! Electric windows - the previous owner (idiot) didn't know about the window lock on driver's control panel, and gave up and didn't care about closing them . (It was the SWITCH dummy!) Wiring - generally okay, obviously not considered as a staple of Montana wildlife . Headliner - HERE'S THE PROBLEM . Anyone got a source for a good, used, new, stolen, stored-in-crazy-aunts-attic headliner???? I've been searchin' for a couple of months for one . We drove it sitting on milk crates and it's sweet; the 4WD auto thing works 100%, brakes need pads and shoes, transmission had rebuilder's urine-soaked receipt under seat and says it was done, like, 9 years and 4 months before I bought it . Guess the warranty has expired though . Lol . Youse guys in Upsidedown Land can get me a new headliner, roll it up and put it in a postal tube and send it to me - OK?	SurferJoe46 (51)
1429391	2016-12-03 19:28:00	Hi Joe can't help but your story sounds a bit like this www.youtube.com Hope you have luck. Any chance that the head lining can be removed and a pattern made for an upholsterer (you must have one nearby) to cut a good one for you?	Bryan (147)
1429392	2016-12-03 23:05:00	I often start car part research from Amazon. They seem to have the best and vast range. I don't necessarily buy from them, but it's a goldmine for parts research. They often list/sell the best part brands (often USA or Japan), after market brands, also list their supplier/manufacturer's. and lately related listings in in their sponsored Ads on the product page. Also equivalent/sub models. I then cross reference to eBay stores/JC Whitney/O'Reillys/PEP Boys/Autozone, etc to buy/research. So maybe these headliners? (goo.gl)(seems for Sierra trims) But can contact Amazon's supplier. Gonna add a cab fairway? (goo.gl) - Amazon sell that too. Perhaps of interest, WAI Global (www.waiglobal.com)have relisted their starter/alternator/ignition parts in new flip PDF's, after a long public absence. "MSI Conversion Spider."..What's that - and any benefit... sounds like a PC Motherboard? I thought MPFI would be the better?	kahawai chaser (3545)
1429393	2016-12-03 23:09:00	What about getting revenge and having a new liner made of squirrel/possum skins? Ken :)	kenj (9738)
1429394	2016-12-04 04:05:00	Thanks guys! I've exhausted all the sources that you've posted - Amazon, Craig's List, Evilbay and all of the dealers, aftermarket manufactures and catalog sales that I've successfully used over the years . The headliner is approx 11 feet long and runs as one piece from the rear windows to the windshield . It is a form of cardboard that has foam-backed headliner material (the stuff you see but don't touch) on the visible side and some Velcro and plastic hidden 'nails' that go into their mating pockets and slots . So - as a one-piece unit that cannot be folded or bent very far from designed shape and contour - it would be a huge package if it were even available . The fabric that also needs to be glued up and replaced, can be gotten locally and professionally at the same time . It's the actual headliner form/shape and itself that I need .	SurferJoe46 (51)
1429395	2016-12-04 04:17:00	those sort of vehicles are rare here and go for stupid money. parts are typically imported in. i would look at finding a resto crowd who could make one out of something else.	tweak'e (69)
1429396	2016-12-04 04:55:00	"MSI Conversion Spider."..What's that - and any benefit... sounds like a PC Motherboard? I thought MPFI would be the better? For clarification the fuel injection 'head' is called a 'spider'. I don't use that term here tonight though. The vehicle had Central Port Fuel Injection, or CPFI, and the improved injection system - where individual injectors can be polled and tested in situ, is called MSI or Multiple Sequential Injection - or words to that effect. The CPFI system shoots a 25% burst of fuel onto the closed intake valves in the cylinders every half revolution of the crankshaft. This allows 75% of the next charge of fuel to cook on the intake valves while they are still closed and once the intake valve opens, it gets the final 25% of fuel that it needs to keep the air-fuel ratio at 14.7:1. In the MSI - if - andonly if the cylinder is on the intake cycle at that moment, it then receives the whole 100% discharge of fuel. Next on the "NICE" scale is that the ECU can individually change the fuel discharge for any one or multiple cylinders to compensate for lower compression, or any other mechanical condition that is out of the norm from the other cylinders. Multipoint fuel injection (also called PFI, port fuel injection) injects fuel into the intake ports just upstream of each cylinder's intake valve, rather than at a central point within an intake manifold. MPI systems can be sequential, in which injection is timed to coincide with each cylinder's intake stroke; batched, in which fuel is injected to the cylinders in groups, without precise synchronization to any particular cylinder's intake stroke; or simultaneous, in which fuel is injected at the same time to all the cylinders. The intake manifold and/or runners are only slightly wetted, and typical fuel pressure runs between 40-60 psi. Many modern EFI systems utilize sequential MPI, which is now called: MSI; however, in newer gasoline engines, direct injection systems (CFI or CDFI) are beginning to replace sequential ones. i	SurferJoe46 (51)
1429397	2016-12-04 21:00:00	Youse guys in Upsidedown Land can get me a new headliner, roll it up and put it in a postal tube and send it to me - OK? here in upsidedownland it would be a floor carpet . All our headliners are right hand drive so no good for you wrong-side-of-roaders anyway :)	1101 (13337)
1429398	2016-12-05 00:16:00	here in upsidedownland it would be a floor carpet . All our headliners are right hand drive so no good for you wrong-side-of-roaders anyway :) The offhandedness of youse guys driving a vehicle with a headliner would only be a problem if youse guys still wear female attractant slickum in you hair and if youse guys are typically over 6' 11.5" tall.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1429399	2016-12-05 00:23:00	youse guys youse guys youse guys youse guys youse guys youse guys	bevy121 (117)
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