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Thread ID: 71834	2006-08-18 23:31:00	Free Energy?	Renmoo (66)	PC World Chat

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479265	2006-08-18 23:31:00	From page: www.mobilehomerepair.com The experiment seems to be feasible, why can't we do it in large scale and harvest "free" energy from it? As long as the system is close, then the amount of water particle is conserved, and therefore the continuously apply of water pressure would "indefinitely" create a stream of water flowing from the bottom to the top. If we can put in a couple of dynamos, then... we can solve the energy crisis in this world! :p :stare: Cheers :)	Renmoo (66)
479266	2006-08-19 00:31:00	From page: . mobilehomerepair . com/perpmotion1 . html" target="_blank">www . mobilehomerepair . com The experiment seems to be feasible, why can't we do it in large scale and harvest "free" energy from it? As long as the system is close, then the amount of water particle is conserved, and therefore the continuously apply of water pressure would "indefinitely" create a stream of water flowing from the bottom to the top . If we can put in a couple of dynamos, then . . . we can solve the energy crisis in this world! :p :stare: Cheers :) C'mon James, you are smarter than that . You can't get more energy out than you put in, and as the experimenter found, he couldn't get the water from the nozzle to spray higher than the head source . Add some pressure-sapping generation facility and that's the end of the story . If it was that simple, it would have been done already . Google "perpetual motion" and you will find any number of very ingenious failures . What surprises me is that Mr Perpetual had an ego (or lack of basic knowledge) great enough to show the world that he's a failure . Good for a laugh though . Cheers Billy 8-{) :D	Billy T (70)
479267	2006-08-19 04:20:00	Strangely enough I have found myself thinking about similar experiments over the years (thought I was crazy). Its an age old problem that relates all the way back to when siphoning was discovered, you can't siphon back to the original height of the water (surface). I would not discount it "yet" as impossible. Finding an alternative energy source is a small part of the world problems at the moment. Politics and world power is dictating we stay with Oil. The only way of this changing as far as I can see is when it runs out. Most people have no comprehension the Iraq war, so called Terrorism and regional dominance which is happening in the middle east is all about future control of Oil, and until people open there eyes in mass this is not going to change. I sometime think I would prefer to be ignorant, its easier.	Battleneter (60)
479268	2006-08-19 04:41:00	. . . I would not discount it "yet" as impossible . Discount it as impossible . It's impossible . Unlike laws made by governments, physical laws can't be broken . The second law of thermodynamics says perpetual motion doesn't and can't work . Hoping to extract energy from (already impossible) perpetual motion is always going to bring disappointment . ;) Sorry about that . :thumbs:	Graham L (2)
479269	2006-08-19 05:24:00	Discount it as impossible . It's impossible . Unlike laws made by governments, physical laws can't be broken . The second law of thermodynamics says perpetual motion doesn't and can't work . Hoping to extract energy from (already impossible) perpetual motion is always going to bring disappointment . ;) Sorry about that . :thumbs: Tell me Graham, is it possible for anything to travel faster than the speed of light? Isn't there a certain well know law that says no? My point is, laws of physics have been proven wrong, and as recently as last year . Don't be so closed minded, the world was flat once, and you were hung for stating otherwise :)	Battleneter (60)
479270	2006-08-19 05:30:00	What people underestimate is gravity and solid state (rare earth) magnetism as tools in assisting to counter the loss of energy. I am not claiming to have any special insight into such matters, but these are both "permanent" sources of energy for all intents and purposes that may yet be harnessed to create perpetual motion. Perpetual motion in its purest form is when something generates enough energy to perpetuate its own indefinite motion, but this is not necessarily needed if a "permanent" energy sourse can assist in the generation of quasi perpetual motion, unlimited energy for all practical intent, if not strictly pure.	RandomCarnage (9359)
479271	2006-08-19 05:35:00	Tell me Graham, is it possible for anything to travel faster than the speed of light? Isn't there a certain well know law that says no? My point is, laws of physics have been proven wrong, and as recently as last year. Don't be so closed minded, the world was flat once, and you were hung for stating otherwise :) Indeed. The whole faster than light being impossible theory has hit a speed bump with some rather inconvenient findings.	RandomCarnage (9359)
479272	2006-08-19 05:47:00	Obviously, science, and in particular physics, is no longer taught. We have to have 'open minds' just in case there is such a thing as perpetual motion. What a load of.....	Terry Porritt (14)
479273	2006-08-19 05:55:00	Obviously, science, and in particular physics, is no longer taught . We have to have 'open minds' just in case there is such a thing as perpetual motion . What a load of . . . . . . newscientist . com/article . ns?id=dn2796" target="_blank">www . newscientist . com hmm faster than the speed of light without the predicted massive amount of energy requires to do it, there goes another ROCK SOLID law of physics lol Yes yes, lets all believe that Science is 100% now and nothing will change, you of course realise people like you were thinking like this 500 years ago . It is actually the dreamers that have driven science and it is ironically history that has taught us this .	Battleneter (60)
479274	2006-08-19 06:03:00	Indeed. The whole faster than light being impossible theory has hit a speed bump with some rather inconvenient findings. Thats not the same thing at all. The business with the water can be tested in your home, faster than light can't. Its a law when its obvious and a theory when a few scientists are still messing with it.	pctek (84)
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