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Thread ID: 71788	2006-08-17 02:03:00	Couldn't Happen To A Nicer Company!	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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478901	2006-08-17 02:03:00	Sony . . . producers of the famous Sony DRM-slash-rootkit-trojan is now gonna try to weasel outta the responsibility of paying off for immolation and loss of personal property for thier smokon' hot batteries . While Sony says it will share the cost of recalling the batteries with Dell, the company is not naming the other companies or devices, citing confidentiality agreements . Marketed under second-party names like Dell or Apple's or whatever, these little honeys are setting the world on fire . . . literally! Isn't it nice to see some Kharma . . albeit a little late for such a nice bunch of blood-sucking leeches? . infoworld . com/daily/archives/2006/08/the_continuing . html" target="_blank">weblog . infoworld . com and here: . go . com/Technology/ZDM/story?id=2319186" target="_blank">abcnews . go . com While Dell is obviously going to be the biggest loser in the Sony battery fiasco, analysts warn that other OEMs aren't immune from the problem . Lenovo has admitted that its laptops may carry Sony cells too . I personally would not stop to urinate on a SONY Corp employee if they were on fire . . . . . . . not to mention CPR . By their not taking full responsibility for bad products, I feel they are just slithering under another rock like the last time they hosed down users with their DRM fiasco . . . and got out of responsibility . . . right? Mechanics' errors come back on tow trucks; SONY Corp and doctors get to bury theirs .	SurferJoe46 (51)
478902	2006-08-17 02:51:00	But would you do the CPR before or after the urination? Remember someone else might have already passed that way before you...	godfather (25)
478903	2006-08-17 02:59:00	www.consumer.org.nz Trevor :)	Trev (427)
478904	2006-08-17 03:24:00	But would you do the CPR before or after the urination? Remember someone else might have already passed that way before you... If he was on fire, doing that may make him 'steaming mad' :mad:	Shortcircuit (1666)
478905	2006-08-17 03:28:00	Mechanics' errors come back on tow trucks; SONY Corp and doctors get to bury theirs. Steady on, why all the aggro Joe? Sony make very good products as a rule, and the fact that no (or very few) other-brand devices are self-immolating suggests that it takes a combination of Dell's battery management and the Sony manufacturing flaw (if that's what it is) to set the world on fire. There is very little risk of anybody being killed by a burning laptop. Being a mechanic, you'd remember a few other manufacturers' boo boos that did cost lives. The Chev Corvair's rear suspension for one, and in more recent years I recall rollover concerns with SUVs (www.citizen.org) and some major problems with the Ford Explorer and Firestone tires. With nearly 10,000 deaths per year in the US from rollover crashes (how many were exercising their constitutional right to die by not wearing seatbelts?) there are bigger fish to fry than Sony and bigger issues to address than a few minor laptop immolations (or mercy killings if they were Dell's). As I see it from my various excursions to the US, the biggest problem on US roads is that many of your drivers learn to point and squirt, but not to actually "drive" their vehicles. Consequently when something goes wrong, it does so big time. Of course we have our share of incompetent drivers as well, but they are rarely found pedalling high-powered behemoths that have all the grace and manouverability of a dying hippo. And what about those massive tire treads that are shed at the rate of about 10 per mile of freeway? (Counted over 120 miles on the I95) Just because a truck has 18+ wheels and can get along without one or two tires doesn't mean that following drivers should have to cope with several kilos of hot rubber flying in their faces. Are they cheap tyres or even cheaper retreads or what? Cheers Billy 8-{) :D	Billy T (70)
478906	2006-08-17 03:33:00	uh...There is a very real risk from burning laptops, Hell if anything in your house has the possibility of bursting into flames then its a risk...	Metla (12)
478907	2006-08-17 03:48:00	Does that include beetles? :p :rolleyes: :lol: beetle	beetle (243)
478908	2006-08-17 05:04:00	Does that include beetles? :p :rolleyes: :lol: beetle Only if they are really HOT...	godfather (25)
478909	2006-08-17 09:40:00	uh...There is a very real risk from burning laptops, hell if anything in your house has the possibility of bursting into flames then its a risk... Well Metla, just about everything electrical in your house from the power point-of-entry to your electric vibrator is capable of bursting into flames, but they don't do it often enough for you to cut off the power and go bush. Sure Dell laptops are going up in smoke, but I'm not sure whether that is happening when left on charge or when operating on battery, or both. Lithium cells sure pack a punch, but even your humble alkaline AA cell can get very hot into a short circuit. Dell seem to be on top of the problem, if a little belatedly, but I'll bet that Dells will kill far fewer people (if any) per year than handguns do on an average Saturday night in Detroit. In the US, in excess of excess of 80 people per day are killed through gun violence. Apparently this figure does not include suicides. Then of course there's the road deaths which run at an average of 120 per day. Thank God Sony doesn't build cars! It doesn't make the Dell situation right of course, but it helps put the risk into perspective, and it sure isn't "knickers in the air" material. Cheers Billy 8-{) :badpc:	Billy T (70)
478910	2006-08-17 10:38:00	Uh......So? Exploding laptops are still dangerous, and as unrelated to guns as they are to cream donuts.	Metla (12)
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