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| Thread ID: 71834 | 2006-08-18 23:31:00 | Free Energy? | Renmoo (66) | PC World Chat |
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| 479345 | 2006-08-29 15:10:00 | What are dark matter and dark energy, and how are they affecting the universe? . sciam . com/askexpert_question . cfm?chanID=sa005&articleID=000A9E60-0325-14EE-832583414B7F0000&pageNumber=1&catID=3" target="_blank">www . sciam . com The dark matter is just the stuff that is calculated to exist (now possibly observed) that counterbalances (bad term) the existance of the observable universe . Talking matter and mass here in a most juvenile way, we can equate it to the effect that the universe has upon itself in terms of mass and motion . It's like just knowing that there's something else under the surface of the water that goes all the way to the bottom of the lake, even thought from the surface it is not observable . The very fact that the surface water exists, shows that there must be something else to offer support below . The quandry so far, has been making the predictable observable with devices that could actually "see" or "detect" the matter . This has now, apparently been done . As to the dark energy . . well, we will have to wait a while and see where that goes . In theory, all matter is made of energy (M-theory or the older "String Theory"), that postulates that there are up to 12 dimensions that are made from donut-shaped threads that are below sub-atomic particle size . Some of these are gravetons that are capable of transversing the dimensions and membranes to freely carry "hanging-on" matter that keep energy in a flux or moving state across the universes . There are other, numerically larger counts of open-ended strings called "threads" that can paradoxically, exist in multiple planes at the same time . . . their thread-like tendriles, possibly extending thru one brane to another (or not) . The passage thru one membrane or dimension by a thread or tendril, may . . . MAY be the black holes in the universe . These threads might provide a conduit to allow stasis or balance to the multiple dimensions and keep them from destroying each other by bleeding off energy from one dimension to another (observable), and this might be the dark energy that science is trying to measure . Nature abhors unbalance and vacuuous areas so this makes sense . Since these threads cannot migrate freely as gravetons can, they are probably going to be much easier to find . Fermi labs in Europe is constructing a giant accellerator that will probably be able to create these gravetons, and then there will be more basis for the multiple dimensions as proof of their existance . So far, all these things are only mathematically provable . . . but the numbers don't work without multiple dimensions and flow of energy to areas that are so far, just theoretical . There's always an unbalanced answer, and so they search for validation . Next comes Super String Theory, with symmetry, mirrors, fermi uints, on and on . At times, it is thought, these "branes" as the membranes are called, bump into each other and release this energy to generate frequent (in eons to many powers) "bangs"; the "big bang" was one of these cyclical events . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 479346 | 2006-08-30 00:03:00 | The dark matter is just the stuff that is calculated to exist (now possibly observed) that counterbalances (bad term) the existance of the observable universe. Talking matter and mass here in a most juvenile way, we can equate it to the effect that the universe has upon itself in terms of mass and motion. It's like just knowing that there's something else under the surface of the water that goes all the way to the bottom of the lake, even thought from the surface it is not observable. The very fact that the surface water exists, shows that there must be something else to offer support below. The quandry so far, has been making the predictable observable with devices that could actually "see" or "detect" the matter. This has now, apparently been done. As to the dark energy..well, we will have to wait a while and see where that goes. In theory, all matter is made of energy (M-theory or the older "String Theory"), that postulates that there are up to 12 dimensions that are made from donut-shaped threads that are below sub-atomic particle size. Some of these are gravetons that are capable of transversing the dimensions and membranes to freely carry "hanging-on" matter that keep energy in a flux or moving state across the universes. There are other, numerically larger counts of open-ended strings called "threads" that can paradoxically, exist in multiple planes at the same time...their thread-like tendriles, possibly extending thru one brane to another (or not). The passage thru one membrane or dimension by a thread or tendril, may...MAY be the black holes in the universe. These threads might provide a conduit to allow stasis or balance to the multiple dimensions and keep them from destroying each other by bleeding off energy from one dimension to another (observable), and this might be the dark energy that science is trying to measure. Nature abhors unbalance and vacuuous areas so this makes sense. Since these threads cannot migrate freely as gravetons can, they are probably going to be much easier to find. Fermi labs in Europe is constructing a giant accellerator that will probably be able to create these gravetons, and then there will be more basis for the multiple dimensions as proof of their existance. So far, all these things are only mathematically provable...but the numbers don't work without multiple dimensions and flow of energy to areas that are so far, just theoretical. There's always an unbalanced answer, and so they search for validation. Next comes Super String Theory, with symmetry, mirrors, fermi uints, on and on. At times, it is thought, these "branes" as the membranes are called, bump into each other and release this energy to generate frequent (in eons to many powers) "bangs"; the "big bang" was one of these cyclical events. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 479347 | 2006-08-30 00:04:00 | Oops...double post...sorry! | SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 479348 | 2006-08-30 06:04:00 | Winston . . . your: "During every second virtual particles appear and evaporate in the Universe . If we could harness these virtual particles then from our point of view we'd be getting energy from nothing . However underlying all of this is the structure of the Universe which is hypothesised to be made of quantum foam . So the energy still has a source, even if it is in another dimension . " . . . . also allows for Gravitons, those quirky little strings that have access to all dimensions freely and at their own will . . . these are what the new Firmi accelerator will attempt to prove first . They travel and "pop-into" dimensions as you mentioned, and they are capable of bringing matter with them . . . dark matter with their accompanying dark energy that is so necessary to balance the scales of the universe's existance . Entropy aside, there is so much energy in all the branes and dimensions flowing around via the black holes/strings and the Gravitons, that there is always going to be a flow seeking equalibrium . This is where the numerical values are to be only found in balance: not like they are today with open ends and unbalanced equations that need some other explanation for their inconsistancies . There is a master equation . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 479349 | 2006-08-31 02:53:00 | There is a master equation. Ah.........the Unified Field Theory. Now there is something to keep you busy on cold winter nights. :D |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 479350 | 2006-08-31 03:05:00 | Actually I've been thinking about my earlier post regarding the Universe balance approximating 1. I made an error but was hoping someone would pick it up. The question is whether the Universe is Open, Flat or Closed. Flat = 1 (not Closed as implied by my earlier post). If Open then it will keep on expanding. Flat is steady state. If Closed then expansion should slow down and then reverse into the Big Crunch. Implosion doesn't necessarily follow from Closed but given quantum uncertainty, I can't see how a steady state could be maintained. Anyone elaborate? |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 479351 | 2006-08-31 04:36:00 | I asked my mate Albert what he thought,but he said you are to advanced for him. | Cicero (40) | ||
| 479352 | 2006-08-31 09:35:00 | That's funny he said this to me: imagef1.net.nz |
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