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Thread ID: 71834 2006-08-18 23:31:00 Free Energy? Renmoo (66) PC World Chat
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479295 2006-08-21 01:06:00 This is entertaining :D

If we can keep the posts from degrading into anything to personal, this is actually a fun thread.

Fact or fiction no longer matters anymore, just the /grins obtained from some of the banter :thumbs: 		RandomCarnage (9359)
479296 2006-08-21 01:19:00 Just to keep the fire stoked, here is the details on the Cairns demonstration
www.aethmogen.com

So someone else did manage to make it work.

But the question remains, where are they now, and why are they not available for $49.95 at the Warehouse.

If two people can build them (not just Adams), and there is no patent issues stopping it, I want mine now... 		godfather (25)
479297 2006-08-21 01:28:00 And where's the links to independent and verifiable and authenticated proof? :lol: Greg (193)
479298 2006-08-21 01:37:00 I have the answers.

Yes.

It takes a mind of unbelieve intellect (which is why I removed all knowledge of spelling, to make room for the real work) to come up with an A plan.

So......here it is.

Wait, I shall only give out half the plan in case Shell send around a bunch of assasins.
It involves 250 million treadmills and the enslavment of the entire Chinese population
Ready? 		Metla (12)
479299 2006-08-21 02:02:00 Quantum entanglement is a situation where paired particles affect each other instantaneously over any distance apart . If one particle drops into say, a positive state, it's partner elsewhere drops instantly into a negative state - even if it is on the other side of the Universe .
As if life wasn't precarious enough as it is Winston, now I have to worry about some alien bozo on the other side of the universe who may decide to flip his particle switch one day to see what happens .

I'm not sure what form my positive particles would take if suddenly flipped negative by the aforementioned bozo, but the very least I could probably expect would be that my naturally sunny disposition could deteriorate into terminal depression and absolute negativity . I could become american, or a northern pom, or god help me, a woman . :horrified

Thanks a million

Cheers

Billy 8-{) 		Billy T (70)
479300 2006-08-21 04:16:00 Just to keep the fire stoked, here is the details on the Cairns demonstration
. aethmogen . com/wri/radams/ausmotor/toc . shtml" target="_blank">www . aethmogen . com

So someone else did manage to make it work . If two people can build them (not just Adams), and there is no patent issues stopping it, I want mine now . . .
I suspect that you have your tongue firmly planted in your cheek her GF, but that aside, being one of the resident PF1 gurus, what is your hypothesis on how this wonderful device overcomes resistive losses in the windings . Follow that with how it generates the extra energy needed to overcome the loading losses incurred when it is "doing work" and an explanation if you can of how you get over 600% efficiency .

That suggests that it is producing more than six times the energy input, but since there is no energy input to start with, that sounds like six time SFA .

Of course your average newt has 600% more physics knowledge than I possess, so I could be barking up the wrong tree here . :D

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :confused: 		Billy T (70)
479301 2006-08-21 04:42:00 What a lot of nonsense.

But I don't have the energy (free or not) to argue about it. 		JJJJJ (528)
479302 2006-08-21 04:51:00 I would tell you how it overcomes the I²R, but alas, it would take many pages .

The costs to produce the report would be prohibitive, as they would also equate to my next 10 years electricity bill . (My own version of "free energy" you see) .

Just trust me, this is going to be the next "big thing", presently thinking of selling some shares in it to Cicero . Winston001 has already bought in big time .

You may as well sell your energy company shares now?

The ComCom can also back off from Vector, it will be like flogging a dead horse . 		godfather (25)
479303 2006-08-21 04:51:00 http://www.lutec.com.au/ godfather (25)
479304 2006-08-22 10:32:00 I have waited, butstill, no one has yet produced evidence to demolish my statement in which I said that Einstein did not say that nothing could travel faster than light.

I was hoping that Battlenetter at least, would go back to source, rather than referencing later books.

So bear with me whilst I quote extracts from both the 1905 original paper in German and the later English translation.

In the original paper the velocity of light was written as V, in the later translation it was written as c.

First of all the German version (I wont bother with umlauts):

Zur Elektrodynamic bewegter Korper, Von A. Einstein
Ann. Phys (Leipzig) 1905 band 17 891.

.....from page 920;

W wird also fur v=V unendlich gross Uberlichtgeschwindigkeit haben wie unseren fruheren Resultaten - keine Existetenzmoglichkeit.

www3.interscience.wiley.com

The original can be downloaded as a pdf.

Now the same from the English translation:

"On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies"

Thus,when v = c, W becomes infinite. Velocities greater than that of
light have as in our previous results no possibility of existence.

dbserv.ihep.su


Now this seminal paper which forms the basis of Special Relativity Theory is about the electrodynamics of electrons in empty space.

So what Einstein says is that electrons, and possibly by extension, other moving bodies, in empty space, cannot, according to this theory, travel faster than the velocity of light.

Nowhere did he make a blanket statement that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

The reason I'm being pedantic, is for accuracy, and, I don't particularly like being told to keep an open mind over matter relating to pseudo science and other matters of belief in mumbo jumbo :)

When we consider the propogation of radiation/particles in a medium other than empty space, then we have a different situation applying.

[Incidently, translating the original paper into english was an exercise we had to do when studying scientific german at university 50 years ago, so I used to know it quite well :) ]


Edit: The english quote is from page 25 of the english translation quoted above. 		Terry Porritt (14)
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