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Thread ID: 71972 2006-08-24 01:50:00 Windows -- in boxes Graham L (2) PC World Chat
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480382 2006-08-24 01:50:00 The threads on Perspex reminded me that many locally assembled personal computers with windows (so you can see inside) are possibly illegal. :badpc:

There are standards covering electromagnetic compatibility of almost all electrical devices. This Code of Practice (www.rsm.govt.nz/standards/cop/001/001.pdf) might (should? :)) interest anyone who assembles computers for sale. Compliance (www.rsm.govt.nz/standards/compliance-guide/Compliance7.html#4) is probably a good idea.
Graham L (2)
480383 2006-08-24 03:22:00 What about my Tsunami case with a window? mejobloggs (264)
480384 2006-08-24 04:19:00 Most computer "assmblers" don't build the case, they use existing ones, with or without clear windows.

Geez, pendantic allright.
pctek (84)
480385 2006-08-24 05:31:00 mejoebloggs: If it's compliant, it's OK . How do you know? A reputable importer might make sure . If it's a computer for your own use, I doubt if there's much problem . I have no idea whether RSM would "deem" a computer built in it for sale as compliant .

pctek: I'd sooner be pedantic than a fool .

If I was running a business I'd want to be sure I didn't deliberatly break the law . It might be a bit damaging to the profits .

I believe you assemble and sell computers . It would pay you to read at least that Code of Practice . It's only two pages and tells you what you must do . Best of all, it needn't cost you anything . If you don't do the things you must do, that could be costly .

Have you got an SCN? Do you affix the C-tick approval mark to each computer you sell? Have you a Compliance Folder prepared?

If you modify a compliant case for a customer by cutting out metal and putting in plastic windows, you aren't allowed to sell it without its being tested . That could be expensive . That might also apply to a case manufactured withb the windows: RSM say that they "deem" all-metal cases to be acceptable; they're not so sure about plastic .

It's not me; it's the law .
Graham L (2)
480386 2006-08-24 05:45:00 I dont fancy windowed boxes, and never built a pc with one.
Why would you want to see in there anyway.

Normally if you need to look inside, you will want your hands in there as well.
Seems boy racer'ish to me to have a window in the side of the box.

I would have no idea if all the computers I have built have any tick or whatever.
May be worth looking into as a selling point...mmm...
Rob99 (151)
480387 2006-08-24 06:49:00 This exact point was raised by me here a while back:
. pcworld . co . nz/showthread . php?t=65414" target="_blank">pressf1 . pcworld . co . nz

It is not legal to sell such "modified" cases as working computers, unless the cases have been type tested . Some "clear case" sellers specifically state in the fine print that the cases are for display purposes only and not to be used for working computers .

It's not illegal to sell the cases, but it may be illegal to use them for a computer .

Compliance infringements can apply to the user, so in theory a home builder/user could be caught but the discovery would only be via the radiated interference from the device, as the subject of a complaint .
godfather (25)
480388 2006-08-24 07:34:00 This belongs in the same category as the food police and the new rules on DIY which means the home handyman can't do anything.

www.rainforestinfo.org.au

Lets all quickly move into a cave in the middle of nowhere.
pctek (84)
480389 2006-08-24 07:54:00 But there is a point to the rules at times, even though you may scoff.

I am acutely aware of a complaint (by one of my neighbours) that resulted in them lodging a complaint with the Radio Inspectors to locate a source of interference, it had almost eliminated the use of the AM broadcast band in the house, and was also noticeable in this house, some 100+ metres away.

I tracked it down for them to a computer (in their own house, embarrasingly for them) that was operating with the side panel off ....
godfather (25)
480390 2006-08-24 09:46:00 I dont fancy windowed boxes, and never built a pc with one .
Why would you want to see in there anyway . Same here - Go Linux!



Oh . . . we aren't talking about OSs here are we? :waughh:
Jen (38)
480391 2006-08-25 03:12:00 This belongs in the same category as the food police and the new rules on DIY which means the home handyman can't do anything .

. rainforestinfo . org . au/good_wood/emr_fact . htm" target="_blank">www . rainforestinfo . org . au

Lets all quickly move into a cave in the middle of nowhere . It's more in line with the requirement that you have to get a licence for food premises .

The radio spectrum is a scarce resource . It is controlled . You have to have llicence to transmit RF . These regulations are intended to give some assurance that items which are capable of interfering with legal transmissions don't .

The requirements they put on computer assemblers are amazingly light . (I'm a bit surprised at the lightness of the penalties (only $250 per infraction for an individual or $1250 per infraction for a company) .

Have you filled in the form yet, pctek?
Graham L (2)
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