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| Thread ID: 72399 | 2006-09-11 13:06:00 | QOL - Quality Of Language | Erayd (23) | PC World Chat |
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| 484025 | 2006-09-12 12:00:00 | I am very much in favour of a good standard of spelling and grammar, without being totally rigid in correctness. I try not to be too critical of some of the lack of literacy skills used here, but it does make me wonder whether this is the way we are going with our language. "Txt spk" is fine when used for the purpose it was intended, so long as it remains in those areas with limited space. Knowing when and when not to use it is a little bit like knowing when it is acceptable to use slang. Poor pronunciation is one of the contributors to poor spelling. With my adult literacy students I can often trace their errors in spelling to the word being written as they hear/heard it. (e.g. Febuary/February) |
Marnie (4574) | ||
| 484026 | 2006-09-12 12:20:00 | Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Posted a number of times before in response to Grammar Nazis/pedants/perfectionists/O.C.D. sufferers 40((drn16 70 4 r5(h334r(h 47 (m48r16d3 |_|1n3rv715y, 17 d305n'7 m7743r 1n w4h7 0r3dr 7h3 |7733r5 1n 4 wr0d 4r3, 7h3 0|ny 1prm037n7 71hn6 15 74h7 7h3 fr157 4nd |547 |7733r 83 47 7h3 r6h17 p(|43. 7h3 r537 (4n 83 4 7047| m535 4nd y0u (4n 517|| r43d 17 w0u7h17 p0r83|m. 71h5 15 8(u5343 7h3 hu4mn mn1d d305 n07 r43d 3rv3y |7373r 8y 157|3f, 8u7 7h3 wr0d 45 4 w|0h3. |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 484027 | 2006-09-12 12:39:00 | Ah, but it has to be the correct word to be able to understand it. | roddy_boy (4115) | ||
| 484028 | 2006-09-12 12:40:00 | I'm in favour of proper spelling, although I do myself tend to neglect capitalisation in posts out of sheer laziness. I do use txt and 1337 5p33|< (www.google.com) occasionally, but only when txting or chatting with other 1337 literate persons. I find the use of such language plain silly on a pc help forum, there is no major time nor space contraints. I also accept typos (I just corrected "also" from "aslo"), but I myself usually will have a quick check before I post. But I have even gone so far as to correct spelling of trademe auctions when the listing title reads "Opticle Mouse", as that was going to affect searches for their product. I still wish spellnazi would patrol the computers category. Has anyone noticed that some members mistake Kbps and KBps? I know I have got this wrong on a few posts before now, and it is just as bad as spelling mistakes. B = Byte b = Bit 8b = 1B 1024B = 1KB 1024KB = 1MB etc correct? Has anyone else noticed the spelling mistakes/typos in previous posts in this thread? There's atleast 4 :lol: Oh the irony. (Man, I do hope I haven't made any myself.) Oh, has anyone else ran into spelling issues whilst coding in HTML? I must've spent half an hour trying to figure out why <body bgcolour="#123456"> wouldn't work; turns out HTML is American, and, of course, the correct tag was <body bgcolor="#123456">. My point is that all these different spellings of identical words probably will not help us in the future, see this for a laugh. (en.wikipedia.org) |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 484029 | 2006-09-12 12:48:00 | The power tripping exhibited by some on this thread takes no account of the fact that some people do not spell well, some are dyslexic, some are just not that worried and some are so upset because their computer is faulty that they can become incoherent. Whilst I am a stickler for accuracy, correct grammar and punctuation in my own work I see no reason to impose my own hang ups on others who may feel otherwise. If you don't like the way that others communicate then just don't read it. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 484030 | 2006-09-12 16:05:00 | I see no signs of power tripping in this thread, zqwerty . Several posters have acknowledged that poor spelling has many causes, and it's not simply spelling which is being remarked on here . It's hardly a "hang up" to prefer a post which is easy to understand rather than struggle with one whose meaning isn't clear . And despite your example of the "rscheearch . . Cmabridge" . there are such posts every so often . I put them in 2 categories - neither relating to spelling as such . The first group hasn't registered that punctuation exists for a reason . Commas, full stops and new sentences aren't optional extras . They help the reader recognise what the poster is trying to say . . Yes, it's grammar . But it's hardly rocket science . Nobody's going to complain if there's a dash where there should've been a semi-colon . It's simply a pause to separate what may be 2 aspects of a problem . The 2nd category has already been called laziness in the thread . It relates to the words missed out or the extras which should've been deleted when previewing before posting . It means having to read & re-read to try & work out what was actually intended . We've all been guilty of that at some time - trying to send the deathless prose in a hurry . But why do I get the impression that some people don't ever check what they've written - with the aim of analysing whether it makes sense to others? Dyslexia is relatively rare, sfter all . . . And suggesting that people who don't like the way others communicate "just don't read it" rather defeats the purpose of a Help forum, surely? |
Laura (43) | ||
| 484031 | 2006-09-12 23:25:00 | On the importance of correct spelling . The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the European Union rather than German, which was the other possibility . As part of the negotiations, the British Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a 5-year phase-in plan that would become known as "Euro-English" . In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c" . Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy . The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of "k" . This should klear up konfusion, and keyboards kan have one less letter . There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f" . This will make words like fotograf 20% shorter . In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible . Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling . Also, al wil agre that the horibl mes of the silent "e" in the languag is disgrasful and it should go away . By the 4th yer people wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v" . During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and after ziz fifz yer, ve vil hav a reil sensibl riten styl . Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech oza . Ze drem of a united urop vil finali kum tru . Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst plas . If zis mad you smil, pleas pas on to oza pepl . |
theother1 (3573) | ||
| 484032 | 2006-09-13 05:03:00 | I recently visited some clients in Lyttelton on Banks Peninsula. Part of my visit involved demonstrating a webpage a colleague had recently developed. Unfortunately, he was a bit late in finishing it and I didn't get a chance to do a final proof check. When the page came up, there it was in <h1> font: Lyttleton, Banks Peninsular. There were guffaws from my clients and ribald comments about ***** writing web pages for Mainlanders. The page was dismissed as the work of an idiot. Spelling DOES matter!! |
TideMan (4279) | ||
| 484033 | 2006-09-13 05:05:00 | That's interesting. PF1 has an automatic zapper for some words. In my post I used the word starting with J that non-Aucklanders use for Aucklanders and it was replaced with *s. |
TideMan (4279) | ||
| 484034 | 2006-09-13 05:08:00 | I wonder what will happen if I use the name of Guy Gibson's (Dambusters) dog? He had a name that was in common use in those days, but is taboo today. It is a derogatory name for black people. His name was Nigger. | TideMan (4279) | ||
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