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Thread ID: 93913	2008-10-06 07:26:00	Problems reinstalling HP1200 printer on W2K	Billy T (70)	Press F1

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710110	2008-10-07 02:39:00	Billy, just use the network place icon to browse to your pc, and when you see the shared printer, right click and 'connect', xp will install the drivers etc...	SolMiester (139)
710111	2008-10-07 02:54:00	So, my question is, what security feature could I be hitting that is stopping me from getting his computer on line to the printer. There is nothing apparent that I can see and I have full network access as administrator, but something must be screwed up. When Ever I set up a network I always turn off ALL security, firewalls in particular, then get things "talking" to one another, finally turning back on any firewalls, that way if somethings turns turtle you know what it was. I have found on the odd occasion you have to set a PC to a static IP, for some stupid reason auto detect just doesn't want to play nice when sharing even though the router is issuing an IP Address.	wainuitech (129)
710112	2008-10-07 07:27:00	I have found on the odd occasion you have to set a PC to a static IP, for some stupid reason auto detect just doesn't want to play nice when sharing even though the router is issuing an IP Address . Hmm . . . . . . . . All my PCs use a static IP address so that is not a problem, in fact as far as I am aware IP addresses are not playing any part in this, but the mention of firewalls has me thinking! All these computers run ZoneAlarm but there have been no questions asked or flags raised by any of the connections . The problem is a bit of a movable feast really, my computer is now working fine and sitting nicely fixed on LPT1, but there's an HP5L upstairs for the kids to use for draft printing and I am having some residual problems there . It sits on my daughter's desk and she can print to it OK because it is hung directly off LPT1 on her box, but my son can't access it at all . However, he can print to my HP6L downstairs . Conversely, this morning my daughter was able to print to the HP6L downstairs as well as the 5L on her desk, but now she can't print to the HP6L anymore yet nothing looks wrong except that there is no tick in the LPT1 box in the Ports section of printer properties, yet the correct printer name is entered alongside . I'm beginning to wonder if there is a printer management conflict in trying to print to two separate printer both addressed via LPT1, though one port/printer is upstairs and the other is downstairs . Any and all speculation on causes etc are welcome . I've run out of ideas . Time to bring back the quill and the inkwell I think . Cheers Billy 8-{) :waughh:	Billy T (70)
710113	2008-10-07 07:42:00	Give each of your kids their own dedicated printer. Why do the printers need to be networked anyway.	Safari (3993)
710114	2008-10-07 07:58:00	All these computers run ZoneAlarm but there have been no questions asked or flags raised by any of the connections. Just assuming here - you have gone into each PC's firewall settings and allowed the full range IP from the router from1-255 through the firewall (s)?? Also when you go into Network Places - look at the persons PC, double click to show the shares - can you actually see the shared printer on the PC that it cant print to ? Regarding the two PC's both having LPT1 as ports, shouldn't be a problem (note - Shouldn't) as they should act as separate Nodes, and the shared Printer(s) are attached to individual machines, even if they were the same model/make of printer - shouldn't matter, because the print command is being sent to which ever printer/PC is concerned. Personally What I would do, is on the PC that's not wanting to play nice and share, remove the firewall completely, make sure Windows Firewall is disabled ( if its XP) and reboot/try again, making sure you can actually see the shared printer - there's been more than once a firewall has caused strange problems, and I wouldn't trust firewalls asking for permissions to allow printer spools through. Example: The Mother inlaws PC last week did similar - no browser or email (OE) would work, checked all the settings in Esets/Nod32 Smart Security,the browsers were all allowed both FF and IE, could ping telstra's servers - removed the firewall and all hell broke lose, web pages opened fine, mail came streaming in - reinstalled the security and all"s well. -- I dunno ??:confused: Edited: just a thought ( yeah it hurt :) ) I assume that each PC does have a different name ?? as you know -- cant have two or more machines with the same name on a LAN.	wainuitech (129)
710115	2008-10-07 09:36:00	Give each of your kids their own dedicated printer . They have no space to put them, and they are too expensive . The one on my daughter's desk is a temporary measure, she has little enough room as it is . Why do the printers need to be networked anyway . So . . . . . . . . . that . . . . . . . . they . . . . . . . . . can . . . . . . . . . print . . . . . . . . . stuff . Cheers Billy 8-{) :illogical Oh yes, nearly forgot . the connection from my son's computer to the HP6L worked fine all day, then when he got home a few minutes ago and went to print his homework it was no longer functional, I forget the error message but it was a new one . I'm sure it isn't meant to be this hard, Old Faithful did it flawlessly for years through many changes of printers .	Billy T (70)
710116	2008-10-07 10:01:00	Just assuming here - you have gone into each PC's firewall settings and allowed the full range IP from the router from1-255 through the firewall (s)?? Also when you go into Network Places - look at the persons PC, double click to show the shares - can you actually see the shared printer on the PC that it can't print to ? Firstly, the OS on all computers is W2K, secondly, yes I can see the shared printers but the ones that don't work do not have the little hand underneath which to me says they are not properly shared. Despite that, I am quite sure that some of those have printed, there are only three computers and two printers involved, though my computer has another two on USB only, a colour inkjet and a colour laser. They are not shared. I hope I am not misleading in any way when I say networked, they are obviously communicating with my computer over the network but each computer is set up with its own set of drivers etc. I'm not well versed in all this but I understand that a printer can have an IP address and not necessarily be connected to a computer, but that is not the set up here. Each computer has the relevant printer drivers loaded and shows share printers under 'Control Panel >Printers'. What I can't fathom is why the settings keep changing or disappearing. They working fine for hours, they print test pages flawlessly, then the next minute they are not even there or some other problem has developed. Personally What I would do, is on the PC that's not wanting to play nice and share, remove the firewall completely, and reboot/try again, making sure you can actually see the shared printer - there's been more than once a firewall has caused strange problems, and I wouldn't trust firewalls asking for permissions to allow printer spools through. When up and working the shared printers can be seen and everything looks present and correct. I'll take them off line and shut down ZA for a while while I play. I assume that each PC does have a different name ?? as you know -- cant have two or more machines with the same name on a LAN. Yes, all have different names, and all work is being done under administrator status with full permissions. The saving grace at present is that my work can go on unimpeded as I have sorted the issues that were directly affecting me. Problem is though that I'm not doing much of that while this is going on. Plan B is to uninstall all printers from those two computers and start again, maybe! Thanks to all for the ongoing assistance. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
710117	2008-10-07 23:11:00	Time for an update/clarification: The original network system had four permanently connected peer to peer computers: A) Admin with Epson & Canon printers on USB B) Daughter C) Son D) Old Faithful W98 box doing duty as a dedicated email collector from a US Website (up to 2-300 per week) and hosting the HP1200 laser. A, B & C all run Win2K. Comp D died (sniff) so to provide urgently needed printing service to B, an old HP5L was pulled out of retirement and installed onto it. It worked fine and still works OK but isn't printing at high enough quality or fast enough for Uni papers. I set out to configure Comp A in the same way that D had been so that the HP1200 would be accessible to B & C. Initial problems in getting 'A' set up to print to the HP1200 were my own stupid fault, I just didn't go about it the right way and there were also some technical issues but all is now sweet. I now want B & C to have access to the HP 1200, and C to be able to print to B so that I don't have people swanning in and out of my office to collect draft print jobs while I am working. I have loaded HP1200 drivers onto B & C and initially (during last 48 hours) they all printed, but inexplicably, now they don't. C trying to print to the 5L on B sees a green "Ready" printer status but nothing prints. Trying to print to the HP1200 on A (previously 100% reliable via the late lamented D) gets a red "Access Denied". B prints to the local 5L OK as expected, but also gets a red "Access Denied" from the HP1200. At various times over the last two days they all worked, but turn your back for five minutes and the situation changes. Last night I test-printed from C to the 1200 on A, but this morning the printer wasn't even in evidence! I'm going to leave them all for now, pending a flash of brilliance from PF1, then I'm going to uninstall all of the non-working connections and start again. Seems to be a movable feast. The only other clue is that administrator access to B via the network is suddenly very slow, but access to C is normal. Cheers Billy 8-{) :mad:	Billy T (70)
710118	2008-10-07 23:28:00	Cant even replicate the problem, no win2000 PC's here :( - but other things that come to mind - is possible sharing permissions on the printer - From the how to suck eggs suggestion (www.wellesley.edu) :lol: have a read through and see if anything rings a bell to the setup. Similar to ( no glasses required to read that site)How to suck eggs Pt2 (pages.infinit.net l) going from memory the permissions have a lot to do with it. Mind you its been a while since I set up a W2K network, XP/Vista makes you lazy sometimes :nerd:	wainuitech (129)
710119	2008-10-08 00:16:00	LOL, Billy, whats happening with your home network mate..... Maybe you should start afresh. If it were me, I would, 1)- confirm all pc's on same network workgroup 2)- re-configure IP addresses from static to dymanic 3)- create a folder on the c: of each PC and share with open permissions for 'everyone' 4)- Disconnect the internet from router and diable all firewalls & a/v protection. 5)- connect and test each pc can print to any directly attached printers 6)- Configure 'everyone' permissions for sharing of above printers. 7)- using the network places icon, export your network from each PC to ensure they all see one another. 8)- while exploring your network, right click any share or printer for connect and shortcuts too shared folders.(this will install any required drivers) 9)- once everyone sharing and smiling, re-connect internet and enable a/v and firewalls. 10)- test to see it still works. Good luck	SolMiester (139)
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