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710317 2008-10-07 07:32:00 Hi im looking to build a computer manily for gaming and have a budget of around $1,000. Just wondering how much i should spend on the different components of the computer like graphics card say $250 or something. Im also trying to pick out parts that are best value for money, that preform while at a low cost. the 1,000 wont include the moniter, speaksers, keyboard, mouse and probaly not the case just the interior hardware.

CPU:
Hard Drive:
RAM:
Graphics Card:
Mother Board:
Sound Card:
Network card:

Do i need a sound card and network card?
And will i be able to play most games on max settings?
I want to be able to upgrade some parts in the furture by selling my parts i want to upgrade, so it doesnt cost as much. Just want to be able to upgrade it if i need to. 		Blackandblue (14231)
710318 2008-10-07 07:38:00 If you've only got a $1000 budget, you won't get a gaming machine :)

Save up at least another $500 and you'll get much a much better PC. 		jwil1 (65)
710319 2008-10-07 07:39:00 You dont need the sound or LAN theyre onboard

Just the hdd, dvd/burner, videocard (if you dont want it onboard), CPU and ram.

It depends on what kind of system you want (Intel or AMD). I wont bore you with what maybe better (there's a few posts here saying ones better than the other).

I would say most people would say get an ASUS mobo. As theyre pretty reliable. All you have to decide, is whether you want Intel or AMD, and how fast you want the CPU, and how much ram, and how big you want the hdd 		Speedy Gonzales (78)
710320 2008-10-07 07:48:00 I would like a Intel computer, i would think a pretty fast CPU would be good for gaming and probally only 2gb or ram max for now. I could add more later if needed. And for the hdd I saw on price spy a 250gb was $71 and a 200gb one was lowest at $77 so ill probally get a 250gb one. More then enough. And only $7 more for a 300Gb

I guess u pick your motherboard last to fit around all your hardware. I remember some one saying the 9600 graphic cards where pretty good money for proformance, which are only around $150-$196 for all the different kinds.

I just dont really know how much to spend on a cpu if i want a computer that can run multipy programs and play intense games. I dont wanna spend over the top cause I want to sell and rebuy if i need to.

Thanks. 		Blackandblue (14231)
710321 2008-10-07 07:52:00 Are you in NZ or somewhere else B&B??

If you are, what part of NZ?? 		Speedy Gonzales (78)
710322 2008-10-07 08:06:00 New Zealand Auckland, Whys this? Blackandblue (14231)
710323 2008-10-07 08:11:00 Nah just wondering, if you were overseas, the prices would have been different

You could check out Pricespy (http://www.pricespy.co.nz)

Type in what youre after and check out the prices

Heres a few 775 pin mobos (www.xpcomputers.co.nz)

This is in Newmarket

You just have to figure out what brand you want

Or if you could save another 500 you could get this (www.xpcomputers.co.nz)

You would have to get a 64 bit OS tho, if you wanted to use all of the 8GB 		Speedy Gonzales (78)
710324 2008-10-07 08:16:00 ...I guess u pick your motherboard last to fit around all your hardware. ....Uh wrong...
Your motherboard is THE most important part as it defines what size your case should be (minimum), what CPU fits with it, what what OC'ing you can do, amount of cards etc that you can use to upgrade at later dates etc.

Decide exactly what you want first, buy the motherboard to suit, and then buy the rest around it (at least thats what I do)

Just as an example... I upgraded (from P4 to AMD x2) this computer over 6 months ago.. cost me $500. I knew that I didnt have the funds for a graphics card, wanted SATA capable, and was looking at an AMD x2 CPU. So I looked for and bought a motherboard with integrated graphics, with options to upgrade to PCi-E 16x later, and it supports everything else I wanted.
This is just an example though

In your list, you forgot about the PSU too... if you upgrade from a low spec machine to something a lot higher, you MAY also need to upgrade your PSU (don't skimp on this either, Hyena and various other brands will cost you more if they blow out) 		Myth (110)
710325 2008-10-07 08:29:00 Thanks but i have no idea what to look for in a Mobo and Ram all i know is DDR3 is the best ram right? And what does Pin mean in Ram.

And how is a
512MB DDR2-533 PC4200 SDRAM $16.81 with DDR2 cheaper than
512MB PC3200 DDR400 SDRAM $25.95

I thought DDR2 was beater then normal DDR ram yet its alot cheaper.

For the CPU i get how 2.4GHz is better than 2.2GHz but then how does

Intel Core 2 Duo E6420, 2.13GHz, LGA775 $252 beat a
Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 2.4GHz at only $161 when it has around .3 GHz less. I also dont get what LGA775 means.

The only thing i can look for is if some thing is more in price then something else then its therefore beater. 		Blackandblue (14231)
710326 2008-10-07 08:40:00 More recent mobos use DDR2 or 3. Some may use DDR.

BUT the amount of pins are different (184 on DDR and 240 on DDR2 and probably 3).

So, you cant use DDR on a mobo that uses DDR2 or 3, or vice-versa

775 pin is the amount of pins on the CPU and the mobo

As shown here (en.wikipedia.org)

DDR is getting obsolete now, so is probably harder to find. Which is probably why its dearer than DDR 2 or 3 		Speedy Gonzales (78)
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