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Thread ID: 94002 2008-10-10 00:33:00 How do I provide a standardised desktop? Tony (4941) Press F1
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711208 2008-10-10 01:32:00 VMWare maybe the better option, its just getting it all set up in the first place.I don't mind a bit of effort up front, as long as the deployment for each course is simple and foolproof.

We are talking about approx 12 different courses, most of which run for a couple of hours a time over several sessions, so there would be quite a lot of deployment going on, by different instructors of greatly differing skills and experience (and age).
Tony (4941)
711209 2008-10-10 01:38:00 I have experance with both. both are great at protecting your pc against wandering mice and delete keys.
Dont like the Microsoft one as it had high resource usage

both hdguard and deepfreeze have remote management

we use both on our site

another peice of software that you might want to investigate is "abtutor". it allows for remote control, demos to to broadcast over a classroom set of pc's, control of interent access and other functions on a per pc basis or just monitor each pc activity. You can can have a complete classroom (per pc) screen activity displayed on your pc
beama (111)
711210 2008-10-10 01:44:00 Its not "wandering mice and delete keys" I'm worried about so much as the fact that a particular class may be required to create or have access to particular files, may want to reconfigure a browser, save a bookmark etc., all of which needs to be cleaned up before the next set of users (which may be the same or a completely different course) sits in front of the PC - and they may need a quite different environment. Tony (4941)
711211 2008-10-10 01:50:00 Its not "wandering mice and delete keys" I'm worried about so much as the fact that a particular class may be required to create or have access to particular files, may want to reconfigure a browser, save a bookmark etc., all of which needs to be cleaned up before the next set of users (which may be the same or a completely different course) sits in front of the PC - and they may need a quite different environment.

it'll do that easy both deepfreeze and hdguard.
are these pc on a network if so there ae ways to setup user permissions as weell
beama (111)
711212 2008-10-10 02:02:00 While VMware sounds like a go for you, i think price will scare you off.....

There is a program called Moka5, which is part of VMware, but for the desktop environment.
Have a look....http://www.mokafive.com/
SolMiester (139)
711213 2008-10-10 21:06:00 Why not use VirtualPC then, thats free, and allows you to save or not save a state on shutdown...? Chilling_Silence (9)
711214 2008-10-10 21:27:00 Why not use VirtualPC then, thats free, and allows you to save or not save a state on shutdown...?Yes, that also looks promising - especially the price :). I have VMware on my home PC, and I remember now that I looked at VirtualPC at the time when I bought VMware, and decided I didn't like it, though I now can't remember why. Definitely worth checking out again. Tony (4941)
711215 2008-10-10 21:35:00 I'd give SteadyState/DeepFreeze/Hdguard a go first (possibly in that order) to see how that type of solution works and if it's not working out give Virtual PC/Virtualbox/VMware a go (again, possibly in that order). It's just the virtualised environments would be guests thus requiring that extra performance from your machines. sal (67)
711216 2008-10-10 23:17:00 It's just the virtualised environments would be guests thus requiring that extra performance from your machines.I don't think performance is going to be an issue. We are talking about courses in computer basics, simple word-processing, using the internet - stuff like that. The nearest we are likely to get to actually exercising the machines is a scanner/digital camera/Picasa course, and even that is pretty simple stuff.

Before I go anywhere serious with this I will have to convince a committee of older people, none of whom are hugely computer-literate, that this is a good idea and worth doing, and even help them understand what it is all about. I'll be doing a lot of playing and testing at home before I go there!
Tony (4941)
711217 2008-10-10 23:24:00 I would seriously investigate a system that combined Steadystate with removable data storage (USB sticks - they are cheap, now) . The files to be worked on are on the USB drive and the progs on the PC . This would be similar to how we used to set up classrooms except we used server storage for changeable data .

It costs nothing but a bit of time to investigate this approach .

Good luck .

PS I had never heard of Steadystate before, either . Thanks, guys, for the headsup .
linw (53)
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