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Thread ID: 72778 2006-09-25 22:49:00 Top Gear is it time to pull the plug ? wmoore (6009) PC World Chat
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487367 2006-09-27 07:02:00 True, but what I am saying is doing 150Kmh on public roads is not something to be encouraged, it is fine to do these speeds in controlled conditions etc The_End_Of_Reality (334)
487368 2006-09-27 22:38:00 Sounds more like something from Monster Garage, than something top gear would be testing, however i have to wonder about the wisdom of 3 wheels? I suppose it would be OK so long as there was nothing (or no-one) heavy being transported at the back


Amazing - I cannot believe people still have this view of 3 wheelers. Despite over the years Reliants, Raleighs, Bonds, AC etc etc And of course the 2 best known BSA and Morgan.

Then there are combinations of course (motorcycle with sidecar).
Millions of them. I don't know the figures now but certainly for many years in the UK the combination was regarded by the insurance firms as the safest vehicle on the roads. I suspect it was the users that were safe - the combinations themselves are actually a travesty in design - but work. Yes there were horrors - the Scott Sociable (ugliest car ever) and we have all seen a certain Reliant van demonstrate falling over on TV.
But look at the racing history of Morgans etc, Three wheelers have raced in all sorts of conditions - road - track - grass - speedway. They are certainly much more fun to watch than the incredibly boring 4 wheel speedway devices.
But I must admit 150kph bend swinging is not my idea of safety for them.
Perhaps the strangest 3 wheeler I drove was a very early BSA (front wheel drive years before the mini) - it had a twin cyl engine and cast iron pistons. Wonderful. Even 20mph was exciting!!
Tom
Thomas01 (317)
487369 2006-09-27 23:12:00 i've just had it drummed into me how forklifts are unstable as many have some weird back suspension that make them behave like 3 wheel vehicles, even though they are 4 wheel vehicles. Because of this bad loading and/or hooning makes them tip sideways very easily...

I can't see how any vehicle where the body is largely outside of the shape the wheels form can be stable, unless they are designed so allmost all the weight is near, or between the 2 front wheels.

However i could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.
personthingy (1670)
487370 2006-09-27 23:42:00 Speaking of 3 wheelers, I read a while back of a concept car by, I think, VW, whose 3 wheeler had bendy twisty axle between the front two and an 'angle-able' third wheel at the back. It is apparently almost impossible to roll. Greg (193)
487371 2006-09-28 02:07:00 I can't see how any vehicle where the body is largely outside of the shape the wheels form can be stable, unless they are designed so allmost all the weight is near, or between the 2 front wheels.

However i could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.

Well now I am puzzled. Are you really unaware of the three wheelers I mentioned originally?
There have been literally millions of them. OK not many in NZ I agree - but even so we do see those like the ones Billy Connolly loves to ride on TV.
You are right about putting the weight between the 2 front wheels - the Morgan did that of course and has a magnificent record as a sporting machine. Just about impossible to turn the thing over.

Your comments remind me of the ones we used to make (as a joke) about single track vehicles ie bicycles and motorcycles - surely a single track vehicle is impossible - I mean how are you supposed to balance it?
Tom
Thomas01 (317)
487372 2006-09-28 04:32:00 No way. Absolutely not.
It's an awesome show. And if they are getting worried about safety etc just tone down the things a little bit. Don't axe it.

Exactly. Ending top gear would be killing the best motoring show of all time (not to mention one that non petrol heads could watch).
techiekid (7219)
487373 2006-09-28 22:56:00 i've just had it drummed into me how forklifts are unstable as many have some weird back suspension that make them behave like 3 wheel vehicles, even though they are 4 wheel vehicles. Because of this bad loading and/or hooning makes them tip sideways very easily...

I can't see how any vehicle where the body is largely outside of the shape the wheels form can be stable, unless they are designed so allmost all the weight is near, or between the 2 front wheels.

However i could be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time.

Here's (video.google.com) a great video about forklift safety.
WARNING R18! - Think early Peter Jackson movies :D
CYaBro (73)
487374 2006-09-28 23:22:00 Here's (video.google.com) a great video about forklift safety.
WARNING R18! - Think early Peter Jackson movies :DGreat movie....... I've sent the link to the drive school that gave me my F endorsement. Hope they use it.

We were shown similar stuff as part of the forklift training, there was the body bag full of offal that exploded when run over by the forklift, and photos from actual accidents among other things. Helped to drum in that forklifts are the kind of toy to be USED WITH CARE.
personthingy (1670)
487375 2006-09-29 22:21:00 Some interesting Brit views here...
www.spiked-online.com
Scouse (83)
487376 2006-09-29 22:42:00 The English reaction seems to be fueled by those needing something to complain about, the politically correct no fun brigade, and more than a little bit by those whose envy of those who can afford top cars has grown to full blown anger.

Bloody typical.
personthingy (1670)
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