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Thread ID: 73049	2006-10-05 08:50:00	The new "infraction" system.	Metla (12)	PC World Chat

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489370	2006-10-10 11:28:00	Ah, I see it's turned in to another bow wow thread. On that topic Jon, I cannot agree with you, your aguements just do not hold water for rational thinkers I'm afraid. Maybe there is something else to talk about. BTW. The people next door with their little doggies are moving out. If the new ones have similar, I'll be hot footing it to the butchers right after the Ag centre, before we get too acquainted, if you take my drift.	Murray P (44)
489371	2006-10-10 22:57:00	Well, since it has finally gone back to a dog thread, I get to have a say before some nub gets it locked down again. I have become the owner (was my g/f's dog; she then became preggas with our kid and didnt like him jumping all over her so I had to start feeding him) of a 7 year old staff/pit/other. She has had him since he was a pup. I am also the father of a 2 1/2 year old kid. This dog is the sort who quite happily defends his property (from a long chain obviously). By defends, I mean he will 'go' anyone who enters the property to the point where he is airbourne by the time he gets to the end of the chain. Everyone gets warned, few forget (and those who do .. always men.. get dropped on there ass by him). He respects just me, my kid, g/f, and her older kids, thats all. Thats all he has to protect... material stuff can be rebought, insured My kid was introduced to him from about the time she was 2 weeks (very apprehensively I might add, but it had to be done to check the dogs reaction). Since then they play together, she rolls all over him, tells him off, on the odd occassion she will smack/run into him on her trike (which results in Dad reminding her of the ground rules). He plays with her, allows her to be by him when hes eating (which most dogs hate). They are like best friends. I have tried to raise both the dog and kid to respect each other. Right now, the dog seems to be listening :p though I know the kid will listen and learn with time. My kid is not the only kid to come into contact with the dog, most other kids hear him bark and generally stay close to their parents. There is another kid who will go with mine out by the dog, and he doesnt seem to mind her. Whilst this is all fine and dandy, I do know that possibly he may turn on her (some dogs I think do suffer senility and forget basic stuff as they get old). I sincerely hope that doesnt happen, but one cannot read a dogs mind. The day he does turn on her or any kid is the day he dies. I have no qualms about that. The point of all this... it really comes down to the dogs owner and the onus is on that person to teach the dog, and also the parents to teach their kids. Teach them respect. Too many dog owners AND parents hide behind some copout so as to avoid the real truth.... it was THEIR fault. Not the dogs, not the kids.. it was the fault of the owner and the parent. Too many owners just let there dogs go for it... and too many parents just let their kid go for it. Both are too flukin lazy and too tied up in their own lives to give a shyt. So [if you are the owner or parent] before you start spouting off and bitchin about whos fault it is, start by doing one simple thing. Look in the mirror and blame the idiot you're staring at. Incidentally, I have been the victim of a dog attack. It was the owners fault. But it was also mine (was a teen at the time.. old enough to take accountability for my own actions)	Myth (110)
489372	2006-10-10 23:13:00	I have been the victim of a dog attack . It was the owners fault . But it was also mine (was a teen at the time . . old enough to take accountability for my own actions)I've also been the victim as a youngster . I wasn't viciously mauled - just a chunk of flesh taken from my leg . But I got blood poisoning from the wound and was off my feet for weeks . I didn't do a thing to provoke the animal . . . it simply came by as I was sitting on the balcony of people my parents were visiting - grabbed my foot, and as I tried to pull my leg away it went further up and sunk it's teeth around my calf and shin . I stress - it was completely unprovoked . That kind of behaviour from a supposedly pet animal is unacceptable . If I was an adult at the time I would have killed the thing immediately by cutting its throat with my pocket knife .	Greg (193)
489373	2006-10-10 23:35:00	Probably since he's not here much... :xmouth: A little tip. Since my name is set to "invisible" you don't know when I'm here and when I'm not. Posting is not a reliable indication of omnipresence.	Biggles (121)
489374	2006-10-10 23:37:00	That kind of behaviour from a supposedly pet animal is unacceptable. If I was an adult at the time I would have killed the thing immediately by cutting its throat with my pocket knife. We've killed the dog debate twice folks. So before Crocadile Dundee here whips out his knife, can we let it die a natural death this time.	Biggles (121)
489375	2006-10-10 23:45:00	I would have killed the thing immediately by cutting its throat with my pocket knife. That would be difficult to say the least, get your swiss army knife out, open the blade, whilst taking care not to cut ones fingers, or getting the hook thingy by mistake, and then cutting the dogs throat - all whislt being savaged by a wild animal - wow !! Good skills there Gerg.	england_rugbyworldchamps (10629)
489376	2006-10-11 01:49:00	A little tip. Since my name is set to "invisible" you don't know when I'm here and when I'm not. Posting is not a reliable indication of omnipresence. That's exactly what I tell my staff... scares the c**p out of 'em when they realise I'm both invisible AND omnipresent :D	Shortcircuit (1666)
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