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Thread ID: 73277	2006-10-13 23:56:00	Todays thoughts...	Metla (12)	PC World Chat

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491236	2006-10-14 08:28:00	Start your own blog Metla - interesting reading....just don't hold back ok? What? No mention of the $11.5 billion surplus and how we are being over-taxed? Or are you saving that one up for next time?	andrew93 (249)
491237	2006-10-14 08:35:00	Ive allways considered Pressf1 my personal playground/Blog, and everyone else is just here as suporting cast... .....Muhahahahahahahaha	Metla (12)
491238	2006-10-14 08:37:00	What? No mention of the $11.5 billion surplus and how we are being over-taxed? Or are you saving that one up for next time? indeed, and its entitled "Fix our hospitals, You utter utter bastards" Wait, that pretty much says it all, Now they have 3.7 minutes to right the balance or we set the Pitbulls onto em.	Metla (12)
491239	2006-10-14 11:12:00	they have 11.5 billion and want to put in toll motorways/roads because they cant afford them otherwise.... seems downright wrong. and they spent 29 million on buslanes around the north shore. increase in travel time of about 2000% and increase in bus patronage of 2.2% - they spent $625,000 for every gained passenger..... just get them a flash bike for 5 - 10 grand each and be done with it. then again bikers are allowed to use buslanes:p and whats this i hear about closing grafton brigde to traffic and making it buses only? putting a stadium in the ****ty manukau, which will cost millions more to build as it's IN THE WATER! and classic one in west auckland (waitakere). they built a new council building in henderson. firstly it's hideous. secondly they moved a railway 5m to put it in, and closed an important shortcut alleyway. thirdly the deliberately did not build enough parking (which is against their own laws), and said it was to encourage people to catch the train. shame it only stops in 5 places, now there is no parking in henderson, nor any parking for students at henderson high. also i hear they're sueing themselves for moving houses out of a flood plain (clever move), but did it before their permits were approved. and this time they've decided to sue themselves as their law dictates. it's also going to land the contractor with a fine, and he thought doing a council job was safe! stupidest thing is that they didnt just wait for the permit, or just push the permits through extra fast.... what is wrong with the concils of the auckland region? (plenty more where that came from too :D)	motorbyclist (188)
491240	2006-10-14 20:53:00	Heh, You think the rest of NZ should be taxed to the point of hardship to pay for roads in Auckland? Not a chance, Pay for your own roads, Tolls are an excellent choice. Pay if you want to use it, Otherwise go the alternative route The fact is (as shown in every city worldwide, even small ones like Auckland) that more roads just mean more cars. Which again means more roads, Which means more pollution and more demand for petrol. The answer is public transport, If the Gov spent as much money on public transport as they do on roading then all the problems would be sorted in a decade, There are 2 issues holding this back, One being that kiwi's believe its their god given right to drive a 2 ton polluting petrol eater 40km just to get one single person to work and the other is the amount of revenue the Gov make from the sale of petrol and car registrations. Otherwise the promotion of motorcycles (and the Gov hates motorcycles, they simply don't use enough petrol) and public transport would be a number one priority. Its much like smoking, Its bad but it makes sooooo much cash. So all in all, Its a big steaming load of crap, All they are interested in is protecting their revenue machines, Not sorting any issues.	Metla (12)
491241	2006-10-15 02:27:00	but auckland produces a large amount of money to pay for roading etc in all other parts of nz, and holding back nz's largest city only harms the economy, which is detrimental to the entire nation regardless of specific location. so what i'm saying is auckland produced a very large chunk of that 11.5 billion, and toll roads won't really help. i'm against toll roads entirely in that they are to pay for things we have already paid for. and yes, the kiwi car culture means it will take much time for mass transit to catch on. also, in auckland, the current mass transit is crap. my motorbike is faster, cheaper, more convienient, cooler, and produces less pollution. i've always wondered why they dont encourage them, but i think you're right about the money lol and i still dont see how more roads means more cars... more people would mean more cars, not roads....	motorbyclist (188)
491242	2006-10-15 03:02:00	They should build more strip bars. Just because.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
491243	2006-10-15 03:11:00	but auckland produces a large amount of money to pay for roading etc in all other parts of nz, and holding back nz's largest city only harms the economy, which is detrimental to the entire nation regardless of specific location. so what i'm saying is auckland produced a very large chunk of that 11.5 billion, and toll roads won't really help. i'm against toll roads entirely in that they are to pay for things we have already paid for. and yes, the kiwi car culture means it will take much time for mass transit to catch on. also, in auckland, the current mass transit is crap. my motorbike is faster, cheaper, more convienient, cooler, and produces less pollution. i've always wondered why they dont encourage them, but i think you're right about the money lol and i still dont see how more roads means more cars... more people would mean more cars, not roads.... Simple, There are too many cars now, It takes 10 years to complete a major road, By then there is more people and more cars, Plus a brand new road that encourages people to use their cars. The day the road opens it will be full. The main toll road near where I lived in sydney was referred to as the worlds largest carpark..... As to removing the car mentality, Impossible to do just by sugesting it, The answer imo is to stop jap imports which will drive the price of cars back up within a decade, Sink a few billion into public transport, and have Government subsidesed motor-scooters for everyone on their 16th birthday, Infact make that a step in the lisence, Force people (especially kids) to ride an under-powered scooter for 2 years. I would also like to see the national train lines and carriges upgraded and promoted.	Metla (12)
491244	2006-10-15 03:27:00	Simple, There are too many cars now, It takes 10 years to complete a major road, By then there is more people and more cars, Plus a brand new road that encourages people to use their cars. The day the road opens it will be full. The main toll road near where I lived in sydney was referred to as the worlds largest carpark..... Force people (especially kids) to ride an under-powered scooter for 2 years. so how does the increase of roads increase cars? it is just population.... yes i hear that toll roads only cause congestion, which is what the new roads are meant to prevent and as for scooters, while immense fun, are not as safe as bikes, but being underpowerd is a pretty good safety measure. bikes are quicker/more powerful, but scooters are less stable especially at higher speeds, plus are less visible. an unfortunate fact about two-wheeled transport is that of the fourwheeled transport being downright thick, and the rider not having the luxury of airbags (which is why i am against open face helmets... teeth arent good brakes, why get a helmet that only does half the job?). it is a fact that bikers are more aware drivers, and i am told bikers know more of their surroundings. the reason for this is that bikers that dont fit the norm soon learn exactly how hard the road is, or are eliminated by natural selection lol. so i do agree: a mandatory scooter period, so people learn to look and will later be more aware of mopeds etc whilst driving... this is brilliant actually... i was thinking... couldnt the govt dish out a $1000 refund to every nz citizen.. it would cost 4 billion, but i think provided they dont put bs conditions and give more to certain ethnic groups, or dependant on you calculatiing the amount of tax you have paid and claiming it etc, it would be nice for everyone to have that extra grand in their pockets... or they could cut petrol taxes over xmas when we're all driving around on holiday ah, but of course, the govt would then be losing money, and even if they did agree it would take forever to actually do it...	motorbyclist (188)
491245	2006-10-15 03:31:00	The answer imo is to stop jap imports which will drive the price of cars back up within a decade Govt just announced that it will prohibit the import of Jap imports over a certain age . . . . ostensibly because of their penchant for polluting our environment . There are simple ways of freeing up the roads: 1 . Charge triple the rego fee for families that have two cars, five times the fees for families with a four wheel drive used solely to take the kiddies to school . . . . oooh, watch the squealing :D 2 . Prohibit all trucks from driving on the roads in peak hour city traffic, say 7-9am, 5-7pm . I read a while back that a large trucking firm did this voluntarily and saved huge amounts in time and petrol . . . just think what our motorways would be like without trucks :thumbs: 3 . make all traffic lights green . . . all the time . That will keep thinks moving and stop those annoying red light runners .	Shortcircuit (1666)
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