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714718 2008-10-26 10:34:00 Edit: I thought the NZXT Tempest E-ATX Full Tower Case (www.ascent.co.nz) would be good for Airflow/cooling since it has "Dual 120mm intake, Dual 140mm Exhaust with an additional side 120mm fan and rear 120mm fan all included" and "PSU mounting at the bottom allows for more security and separation of heat from the CPU"

I guess I'm asking if it would be suitable for all the components below? (even though it states one ATI 4870 card down there i will be purchasing another one once the computer is made and i'm happy with it to an extent)

CPU: $300.00 Intel Core 2 Duo E8500, 3.16GHz (OC up to 4.2GHz)
Mobo: $200.00 Asustek P5Q PRO P45
RAM: $160.00 2x2GB DDR2-1000 CL5 MEMORY
GFX: $413.00 ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB graphics card
PSU: $200.00 Corsair 750W
DVD: $42.00 Asustek DRW-2014L1T Serial-ATA DVD Writer
HDD: $180.00 Seagate 750GB 7200rpm SATA

The Case i'm wanting is also a full Tower so would give everything a bit more room.
Here's the link (www.ascent.co.nz) to it if you haven't already clicked on the above one.
Jared White5 (14159)
714719 2008-10-26 10:50:00 Edit: I thought the NZXT Tempest E-ATX Full Tower Case (www.ascent.co.nz) would be good for Airflow/cooling since it has "Dual 120mm intake, Dual 140mm Exhaust with an additional side 120mm fan and rear 120mm fan all included" and "PSU mounting at the bottom allows for more security and separation of heat from the CPU"

I guess I'm asking if it would be suitable for all the components below? (even though it states one ATI 4870 card down there i will be purchasing another one once the computer is made and i'm happy with it to an extent)

CPU: $300.00 Intel Core 2 Duo E8500, 3.16GHz (OC up to 4.2GHz)
Mobo: $200.00 Asustek P5Q PRO P45
RAM: $160.00 2x2GB DDR2-1000 CL5 MEMORY
GFX: $413.00 ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB graphics card
PSU: $200.00 Corsair 750W
DVD: $42.00 Asustek DRW-2014L1T Serial-ATA DVD Writer
HDD: $180.00 Seagate 750GB 7200rpm SATA

The Case i'm wanting is also a full Tower so would give everything a bit more room.
Here's the link (www.ascent.co.nz) to it if you haven't already clicked on the above one.
Forget my Gigabyte suggestion, that thing is huge! Just make sure you can fit that case on your desk.

And yeah, of course that case will be cool enough for your system. If you want to overclock your CPU by that much, make sure you get a good aftermarket cooler.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
714720 2008-10-26 11:13:00 So you're saying i would have to be rather picky about what case i get if i wanted to but 2 4780 Graphic Cards into my computer? which i am planning on doing but later on down the track but not for 6 months or so.

You're looking at putting $2000 worth of GFX into a $1500 computer?

Can't you find a cheaper hobby? You really really really won't see much for that... you could buy an OK car for that. Or enough petrol to get to the shops and back or something.
Thebananamonkey (7741)
714721 2008-10-26 11:16:00 Forget my Gigabyte suggestion, that thing is huge! Just make sure you can fit that case on your desk.

And yeah, of course that case will be cool enough for your system. If you want to overclock your CPU by that much, make sure you get a good aftermarket cooler.

Don't think ill OC my CPU mainly because i don't have a clue on how to do it and don't want to ruin a good motherboard because of it.


You're looking at putting $2000 worth of GFX into a $1500 computer?

Can't you find a cheaper hobby? You really really really won't see much for that... you could buy an OK car for that. Or enough petrol to get to the shops and back or something.

Well I'm not totally sure but somehow i doubt it will happen. As i said i don't know all that much about computer components and $1500 was only a base, i could see how it could get quite a lot higher easily.


So now just to get a reply from stormdragon :p


That PSU is really expensive, I got the same from PBTech for about $170 (www.pbtech.co.nz).

What brand is the memory and graphics card?

Yeah you were right the PSU is rather expensive for what i was getting. I looked on that site and seen i can get an extra 100W PSU for $50 less. Thanks for that.

Now to the Graphics card, it looks like Asus will be the cheapest, maybe. If not can you recommend one that will be cheaper?

As for the RAM I'm not totally sure what brand i would go with. As i said in my first post I'm extremely new to this computer building business. So i don't have much knowledge on computer components
Jared White5 (14159)
714722 2008-10-26 18:32:00 Now to the Graphics card, it looks like Asus will be the cheapest, maybe . If not can you recommend one that will be cheaper?

As for the RAM I'm not totally sure what brand i would go with .

Stick with Asus it's a good brand, backed up with good warranties .

As for RAM imo Corsair, GSkill or Kingston are the way to go brand wise .



As i said in my first post I'm extremely new to this computer building business . So i don't have much knowledge on computer components .

Are you confident enough with your knowledge to build the machine yourself with that much money in components on the line?
stormdragon (6013)
714723 2008-10-26 19:36:00 You're looking at putting $2000 worth of GFX into a $1500 computer?


Where do you get $2000?

GFX: $413.00 ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB graphics card

x2 = $800.

Its a 4870, not a 4870x2.

As I said before, the case is fine.
pctek (84)
714724 2008-10-26 21:42:00 Are you confident enough with your knowledge to build the machine yourself with that much money in components on the line?

I have had previous experience in building them but i will have someone helping me so don't worry :p wouldn't risk that much money on components for me to stuff it up and thanks again for the help been wonderful :)
Jared White5 (14159)
714725 2008-10-26 22:14:00 I've just done a custom gaming machine (got bored with the old one)

Quick Specs
quadcore@3ghz
Asus Striker 2 formula (really nice mobo, I own two of them)
Antec 1200 case (the old machine is in an Antec900, great cases, the cable bay in the 1200 is great for hiding the cables and getting out of the airflow)
2xGTX260 in SLI (both are Asus cards)
8GB Ram (corsair)
1000Watt Zalman Zm1000-HP (good solid power supply is critical to a gaming rig with high end graphics boards)
Zalman HSF
Monitor Viewsonic 28" (900 bucks well spent, no point having beastly graphics on a low end screen)
Vista64Ultimate (needed for the 8gb ram, though there's nothing in Ultimate that justifies it price vs vanilla Vista 64)

Make sure that if your buying a case with a power supply that it can meet your needs, modern graphics cards need a lot of power, in my case each card requires 2x6pin power cables to run it, the first power supply i tried would run fine until the cards started to come under load then it would click off, the power supply simply could not handle the cards+rest of the comp .

Remember also that some of the bigger cases with a lot of fans (I'm looking at you Antec1200, you and your 6 fans) will need power to run those, the draw isn't a lot but if your close to the line power wise it could become rather annoying .

Reviews are your best friend, do your homework on every part, for cases look for comments on cooling, for power look for what plugs it has, pay attention to how many amps each rail can handle . Graphics cards look at benchmark scores for the types of games you like, Motherboards look for things like plug placement, can the ram slots be accessed with a graphics card in place, read the manufacturer forums to see what sort of problems people found with them .

SLI isnt the performance silver bullet its made out to be, you can get great performance from a single card, or consider the types of card that are single slot SLI types like the GX2 for example . All SLI is going to do for you is make games smoother and more able to handle spikes where lots of stuff is going on screen . There's not much difference gaming wise between my 8800GT SLI machine (old one) and another machine i have with a single 8800GTS (very similar specs cpu/ram etc)

Lastly once you have it built and running, give a thought to placement . I've seen many a machine wedged into those horrible cheap computer desks with no room to breathe, Make sure you keep the internals tidy and free from dust . I take to mine with air dusters on a regular basis, remember also that modern graphics cards push a ton of hot air out the back so if you have the case backed up to a wall you could find some issues with smoldering wallpaper :)

Hope that's of some help on your journey down the road to a gaming machine, you'll arrive at the end with empty pockets but definitely a worthy beast to show for it .
kersonan (13264)
714726 2008-10-26 22:57:00 Well this is what i've ended up with...

CPU: $318.00 Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz 6M 1333MHz 45nm (urcomputer.co.nz)
Mobo: $200.00 Asus P5Q Pro Intel P45 Chipset LGA775 ATX (pconlineshop.co.nz)
RAM: $204.00 Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X4096-8500C5, 2x2GB, DDR2, DIMM, DDR21066, Low profile (ascent.co.nz)
GFX: $470.00 Asus ATI Radeon HD 4870 EAH4870/HTDI/512M DDR3 PCI-E (www.extremepc.co.nz)
Case: $225.32 NZXT Tempest E-ATX Full Tower Case, Side Window, Black (ascent.co.nz)
PSU: $205.90 Corsair TX750, 750W ATX PSU, Active PFC, SLI Ready, Grey, Retail (ascent.co.nz)
DVD: $42.00 Asustek DRW-2014L1T Serial-ATA DVD Writer (pconlineshop.co.nz)
HDD: $218.36 Seagate Barracuda ST3750330AS Hard Disk Drive, 750GB, 7200rpm, 32768KB Cache, SATA-2 (ascent.co.nz)
Total cost = $1,883.58 inc gst ex S&H

Why does this ATI 4870 (ascent.co.nz) cost so much compared to the one i posted up above? it's the same product, yeah?

Also if you guys know anywhere else i could get better deals please post :)
Jared White5 (14159)
714727 2008-10-26 23:26:00 most of the variants in pricing that you seeing with the video cards will come down to the bundle and the maker, the cheaper ones will lack a free game, extra cables and adaptors for example. best to spend the extra coin and get a good brand like Asus. The video cards are a key part of a stable gaming machine so cheaping out on them isnt a good idea kersonan (13264)
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