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Thread ID: 73367	2006-10-17 02:52:00	Makes a change from political upheaval, widows and plane crashes.....	Billy T (70)	PC World Chat

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492093	2006-10-18 09:49:00	30 minutes and no snarling yet? I thought there'd be a Kilobite(s) at least by now	R2x1 (4628)
492094	2006-10-18 18:18:00	Autos take all the fun out of a fast drive over winding hilly roads. Present company excepted, autos are for old women. BillyT, last time I checked (and am doing so now just to make sure .... phew, still there) I'm not a woman (though in my next life I would probably like to be one and ..... (the mind boggles). And I LIKE AUTOS. Drove manuals my whole life, finds that I get - on my driving patterns - the same pleasure and perhaps even more driving an AUTO. So, your statement is patently wrong, autos are for old men too. sarel	sarel (2490)
492095	2006-10-18 18:44:00	BillyT, last time I checked (and am doing so now just to make sure .... phew, still there) I'm not a woman (though in my next life I would probably like to be one and ..... (the mind boggles). Thank heavens for that sarel, it would be an awful shock to find that somebody had burgled your tackle shed and made off with your favourite rod and sinkers. And I LIKE AUTOS. Drove manuals my whole life, find that I get - on my driving patterns - the same pleasure and perhaps even more driving an AUTO. So, your statement is patently wrong, autos are for old men too. sarel "Driving patterns" is the key expression here. I do drive autos from time to time (rentals) and find the lack of connection between aural effects and motive urge to be immensely irritating, and the loss of direct engine braking equally annoying I can't set up the balance of the car for a fast corner with a simple off/on throttle, I have to use brakes instead. However, you are dead right, auto's are for old men too, and when I get so old that driving becomes a means of getting from A to B in cossetted comfort I'll get somebody to push me in a wheelchair. That will be automatic enough for me. Cheers Billy 8-{) :D	Billy T (70)
492096	2006-10-18 18:52:00	Like Sarel, I drove, and still mostly drive, manuals all my life. But I way prefer an auto nowadays. If autos are for old women, then manuals are for boy-racer wannabes.	Greg (193)
492097	2006-10-18 19:15:00	The modern F1 car is tiptronic,they seem to manage ok. There are lots of tiptronic cars at a reasonable price,but in the end it's to each his own. I might add that I have always fancied myself as Stirling Moss,and if I were able to find roads with lots of corners and no speed cameras,then I would consider the 6 speed MX5.	Cicero (40)
492098	2006-10-18 19:42:00	There are lots of tiptronic cars at a reasonable price, but in the end it's to each his own. I might add that I have always fancied myself as Stirling Moss,and if I were able to find roads with lots of corners and no speed cameras,then I would consider the 6 speed MX5. Jeez Ciccy, your budget is higher than mine if you can afford tip-tronic systems. I don't think they are available in your standard Japanese stationwagon, more like it will be a European brand, though I admit I don't know for sure. I'm no boy racer or Stirling Moss wannabe either, I don't even speed these days, but I do like to have direct control over my vehicle and you can have heaps of driving fun while well under the speed limit. I had to do a fast drive through the Waipoua State forest recently to make an appointment time and you can't break the speed limits there unless you own a supercar, but I did enjoy the drive and it wouldn't have been half the fun or anywhere near as quick in an auto. IMHO (and based on experience) you need an engine bigger than 2 litres to really get any progress with an auto. Mmmmmmm..... 6-speed, ABS and a responsive 2.0 Litre engine, that'll do me. Or an MX5. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
492099	2006-10-18 20:48:00	Hey BillyT Perhaps the focus should shift from men/wimmin to "old" or "not old". Some of the senior members of this forum classify ourselves as old (or perhaps used up) and the sedentary pace that an auto gives us is just dandy and calming after years of stress plus you have one less pedal to forget with all the senility and dementia around. B*gger, two weeks ago I forgot I was being a taxi driver for the wife, in her manual nippy car, stopped at home and switched off, forgetting it's still in gear and a manual - result is one b*ggered garage door. Suffice to say the thin lips became evident immediately, the eye-daggers killed me seven times over (luckily we had visitors so no physical blood-letting took place). So, I am refusing to drive her car again for obvious reasons - personal safety being one. sarel	sarel (2490)
492100	2006-10-18 23:23:00	I have just travelled 1,000 kMs (return trip) in my 6 speed MX5 (RS model) with lots of hills and corners. Fantastic, to say the least, but still got 38 MPG. However for commuting round town my 4 speed Auto (with full engine braking BTW) is hard to beat for comfort and convenience. My sympathies to sarel, for the same reason I do not encourage SWMBO to drive the MX5, as it's not a gear change as much as a "lucky dip". Just as well the MX5 is red-lined at 7,500 RPM....	godfather (25)
492101	2006-10-19 00:28:00	Billy: "Nah, I'll be looking for a Mazda-6 5 speed SW . Toyotas are too expensive, Mitsubishi don't turn me on at all, Subaru make me drool but are theft magnets and premium priced, Ford put me off with reliability issues during previous ownership and likewise Holden. Did I leave anybody out apart from the Koreans?" Ya gotta 'splain this point to me: Looking at GoogleEarth, I kinda notice you are locked in by wetness (oceans) all around you....where, oh where could a thief hide with a purloined vehicle? I'd be nervous as a woman of ill rupute in church if I had to hide or drive a stolen vehicle on a (ok, rather LARGE) island! :blush: As for Sarel: "I'm not a woman (though in my next life I would probably like to be one and ..... (the mind boggles). "... you got some 'splaining to do too! [pink color by me]	SurferJoe46 (51)
492102	2006-10-19 00:46:00	Billy: "Nah, I'll be looking for a Mazda-6 5 speed SW . Toyotas are too expensive, Mitsubishi don't turn me on at all, Subaru make me drool but are theft magnets and premium priced, Ford put me off with reliability issues during previous ownership and likewise Holden. Did I leave anybody out apart from the Koreans?" Ya gotta 'splain this point to me: Looking at GoogleEarth, I kinda notice you are locked in by wetness (oceans) all around you....where, oh where could a thief hide with a purloined vehicle? I'd be nervous as a woman of ill rupute in church if I had to hide or drive a stolen vehicle on a (ok, rather LARGE) island! :blush: As for Sarel: "I'm not a woman (though in my next life I would probably like to be one and ..... (the mind boggles). "... you got some 'splaining to do too! [pink color by me] Hmmm and in Hawaii they don't have car theft either then? Er, loads of them are left trashed somewhere... or repainted and re-registered.	gibler (49)
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