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Thread ID: 73464 2006-10-19 20:05:00 Employment situation.. what would you do now?? Myth (110) PC World Chat
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492777 2006-10-19 20:05:00 I am currently working in a 'filler' job (filler means it fills in between being an unemployed ex-student and whatever job is next, giving me some reference for my next employer). It is a minimum wage (well not far off it) job that has me rostered at 22 hours per week over 4 consecutive nights.
Last night I received a phone call from the 2 I.C. (not the team leader but next in line) asking if I would come in and work (my usual week is Sun-Wed nights). My reply was no, my partner and I had made arrangements for the night. I was then asked if I would work Fri or Sat nights (as apparently I was really needed). I replied no to both of those (as again I was unavailable (my partner has First Aid training all day Saturday for playcentre and she also has a business meeting soon today).
I was then told that I had turned them down for overtime (if you could call it that, as its paid at ordinary time up to 50 hours per week) three times; and that I might never get asked to come in again. I replied ok, and thought that would be the end of it.
Next (during the same phone call,) I was reminded that during my interview, I was told that flexibility would be required. (I was also told by the 2 I.C. during that interview that no, I would not be frowned upon if I turned it down occassionally). Now, I believe I have been flexible (yes I have turned down some overtime, but I have also accepted some .. the ratio would probably be somewhere about 40-60%.. maybe even 50-50% no/yes. Also, we are sometimes asked to start at 8 instead of the usual 8.30 and finish at 4.30 instead of the usual 2.30. I have done all these bar twice (I finished at 2.30 when they asked if we could go on to 4.30). So I believe I have been flexible.

I feel totally pissed at what has happened, and believe they tried to blackmail me into working. Am I wrong in this assumption? Am I wrong in the assumption I have been flexible? What should I do now?

(Incidentally, as I have 2 dependents, I am still receiving a top-up from WINZ as I don't work 32 hours per week). They allow me to earn $80 over and above unemployment benefit before they tax/deduct (to the extent I really only get $80 extra) from my benefit.
Myth (110)
492778 2006-10-19 20:25:00 Also: seeing the Team Leader and saying something to her is not going to be beneficial, as I know (from overhearing them talk of disagreements with upper management (day shift)) they will support each other fully with whatever may arise.

My thinking atm is that I lay low, dot my i's and cross my t's and hope I get a good reference for other jobs I apply for. I was a student for 2 years and know being a student/unemployed as well as relocation are a large reason I found it hard to get work (all previous references before re-education were excellent)
Myth (110)
492779 2006-10-19 20:35:00 Do you want sound advice or Metla advice?

If it was me I would have told them to go burn in hell,Anybodies time is worth more then the minimum wage and it gets right up my nose when people with a tiny amount of power think their **** don't stink. (Though I do make my crew work 11 hour days and roar at them......Muhahahahahaha)

If its a temperory job then treat it as such and come up with a better plan....Right after burning your bridges.Having no income and having to face the wife is an excellent motivator.
Metla (12)
492780 2006-10-19 21:23:00 Lie low, look for another job . Nothing will be gained from making an issue about it .

Don't forget to them work IS more important than anything you have planned in the real world, but plugging for emotional guilt to come in to work is not acceptable, especially on short notice .

Rocking the boat only serves to get you tipped out before you are ready .

Pick your fights in your own time on your own ground with an excape plan .
netchicken (4843)
492781 2006-10-19 21:35:00 Sounds like good advice so far. Perhaps hunt around for another part time job, so you are at least semi-ready if the overlords do boot you out.

But yeah... good references are important. If they get really mad at you, maybe bribe them. Tell them you will leave if they give you a good reference ;)
mejobloggs (264)
492782 2006-10-20 00:49:00 This is what happens when there are no workers Unions. zqwerty (97)
492783 2006-10-20 01:17:00 Also: seeing the Team Leader and saying something to her is not going to be beneficial, as I know (from overhearing them talk of disagreements with upper management (day shift)) they will support each other fully with whatever may arise.)

Go to upper management. State your concerns.
In a calm, reasoned sort of way, no going nuts.

Then you have done what you should, go back to work as normal and start looking for something else.

I am a fan of sticking up for yourself, it makes the employer think twice about doing something bad to others.

I had an employer once who gave everyone a whole 6 days leave a year. One who didn't realise that took his 15 days and then didn't get any pay.
This employer liked to fire people at the drop of a hat by screaming at them, threatening violence if they didn't leave immediately too.

He got away with it for a long time because not one single person had the guts to stand up to him.
Until me.

I got fired too but I had the satisfaction of taking steps, as I told him I would, and I know for sure that thats one company that will never do that again to any staff member.
(Whether the owner will or not is another thing, but losing his company might have hammered home the point)
pctek (84)
492784 2006-10-20 01:21:00 well having spent the last weel organising a stag night for a mate, I have found out that being a female stripper is good money $300 for 15 min worth of dancing naked, not bad money but too rich for my budget,

ps. have decided to go for two prosi's for the hour for the same money:cool:
plod (107)
492785 2006-10-20 11:19:00 I feel totally pissed at what has happened, and believe they tried to blackmail me into working. Am I wrong in this assumption? Am I wrong in the assumption I have been flexible? What should I do now?

What they want for you to do is to work for Free and wait hand and foot on them.
Cornot (10386)
492786 2006-10-21 01:14:00 Of course everyone's definition of "flexible" is different unless it is quantified in your employment contract .

Sometimes I feel that companies want to ignore the fact that most people "work to live" not "live to work" . Things are slowly changing though in the western world .
dolby digital (5073)
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