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Thread ID: 94439	2008-10-29 08:44:00	To Build or not to Build...	Blam (54)	Press F1

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715785	2008-10-30 06:08:00	I would probably want a better looking case. Looks is all that matters!:D There's heaps of different cases out there just look around. Looks aren't everything although they are important :), also consider build quality and airflow. Is that GFX card good? On the gpforum they recommend the ATI Radeon HD 4870 512MB graphics card for the 1500 dollar range. Its a better then my 8800GTS seriously though a 4870 are at least $200 more. If that's what you want and you can afford one go for it. Also, what type of fan would you recommend for OCing? Currently a noob and know nothing about OCing but want to have a fan just in case:thumbs: OCing Intel CPU's (use mostly AMD's) isn't really my arena to comment on, they would be alot more knowledgeable people on the forum then me for this. Although I will say a after market cooler is useless unless your case has good airflow.	stormdragon (6013)
715786	2008-10-30 06:12:00	I used to use lots, from Legend. Way too many failures so I stopped. The warrnty isn't that long anyway. But Legend isn't Palit... though I have seen pictures of "legend" cards and they look like they are built with the bare minimum to function and nothing more. Funny thing, the first MSI Mobo I bought (from DSE) came in a Legend box... :illogical Palit's making a good name for themselves by the looks of it. Their custom cooling is superior to stock on many of their cards, not sure about warranty but an overseas friend got his dead 8800GTX replaced within a month I think it was. I read reviews on some of their cards too, They custom design the PCB and Cooler, and are actually quite good designs apparently. Don't know about quality but I imagine it's not too bad. Anyone who's going to bother customising probably isn't going to ruin it with rubbish parts... I hope. Speaking of mistakes, the main one I made when doing my first custom build was putting way too much paste on the CPU (it was OEM and I had to buy a 3rd party cooler) but if you buy a retail boxed CPU of any brand, it comes with a suitable cooler and thermal material, so you can't go wrong :thumbs: Just remember to check everything twice before you power on. You don't want to let the magic smoke out...	Agent_24 (57)
715787	2008-10-30 06:55:00	Lol just for support, i am 16, just build my own maybe a year ago.. I was just like you, Nervous as anything!!! The only problem i had was installing the CD Drive (Not much of a problem, i will 15 XD) but after reading the install instructions in the pack it was sweet =) Have a go, just like qazwsxokmijn says, "Just because things can go wrong, doesn't mean it will!" Go on have a try, Its awesome fun =)	password (5384)
715788	2008-10-30 07:06:00	A few tips: Read the manuals with the various components. Most connections have notches to help you orientate parts the correct way, check these before joining anything (if it seems to take to much force to insert something its probably the wrong way round. Remember to consider electrostatic discharge (ESD). Check everything before powering on. If in doubt don't hesitate to ask, a lot of us here have built numerous systems before and are more then happy to help. Don't be afraid to ask seemingly noobish questions its better then possibly throwing money away. And as for building your own PC - it's immensely satisfying. But just remember just because things can go wrong, doesn't mean it will, so don't let fear wuss you out. :thumbs::thumbs:	stormdragon (6013)
715789	2008-10-30 07:20:00	A few tips: Read the manuals with the various components . Most connections have notches to help you orientate parts the correct way, check these before joining anything (if it seems to take to much force to insert something its probably the wrong way round . Remember to consider electrostatic discharge (ESD) . Check everything before powering on . If in doubt don't hesitate to ask, a lot of us here have built numerous systems before and are more then happy to help . Don't be afraid to ask seemingly noobish questions its better then possibly throwing money away . :thumbs::thumbs: Yes believe me I have asked some lately but not to do with building a system, although I have built a few . Just remember if you go for an Asus mobo if it has the Atheros network card it probably will conflict with comodo firewall if you install it, took me a few days to work out why this system would not connect to the net when I rebuilt it this year	gary67 (56)
715790	2008-10-30 09:33:00	There's heaps of different cases out there just look around. Looks aren't everything although they are important :), also consider build quality and airflow. Its a better then my 8800GTS seriously though a 4870 are at least $200 more. If that's what you want and you can afford one go for it. OCing Intel CPU's (use mostly AMD's) isn't really my arena to comment on, they would be alot more knowledgeable people on the forum then me for this. Although I will say a after market cooler is useless unless your case has good airflow. I've been looking at quite a few raidmax cases, they look quite good, are they good in terms of quality.? As for the the GFX card, to be honest I don't really know what card I need. I just need one that'll play most of the latest games (fallout 3, crysis) What other kind of cooling system would I need for OCing? Also, will this system be powerful enough for me to quad boot ubuntu, vista, xp and leopard? (and maybe windows 7 when it comes out) BTW thanks all for your opinion/tips/suggestions:D Blam Edit:Gary-will be sure to keep that in mind, but I find Vista's firewall sufficient.	Blam (54)
715791	2008-10-30 12:09:00	I've been looking at quite a few raidmax cases, they look quite good, are they good in terms of quality.? As for the the GFX card, to be honest I don't really know what card I need. I just need one that'll play most of the latest games (fallout 3, crysis) What other kind of cooling system would I need for OCing? Also, will this system be powerful enough for me to quad boot ubuntu, vista, xp and leopard? (and maybe windows 7 when it comes out) BTW thanks all for your opinion/tips/suggestions:D Blam Edit:Gary-will be sure to keep that in mind, but I find Vista's firewall sufficient. Raidmax... well their PSUs are junk, and as far as I know their cases are pretty cheap (read: bend too easily, a problem with a lot of the cheaper cases) A case is probably one of the components where you really should look at it in real life before you buy it, or at least get a decent review on it. You don't need to buy an aluminum case for lots of $$$ but don't get one too horrible either. Good graphics card for Crysis.. well Crysis will eat anything so get the fastest possible... Overclocking: depends how far you want to go, really, or how cool you want your CPU etc.. water cooling would be the best if you really want to go mad with it... System will be able to boot as many OS as you like, provided you have enough drives/partitions & space and your bootloaders are all setup properly.. But unless you illegally download or otherwise hack OSX you won't get it on a normal PC (www.insanelymac.com for more info on that!)	Agent_24 (57)
715792	2008-10-30 12:24:00	Raidmax... well their PSUs are junk, and as far as I know their cases are pretty cheap (read: bend too easily, a problem with a lot of the cheaper cases) A case is probably one of the components where you really should look at it in real life before you buy it, or at least get a decent review on it. You don't need to buy an aluminum case for lots of $$$ but don't get one too horrible either. Good graphics card for Crysis.. well Crysis will eat anything so get the fastest possible... Overclocking: depends how far you want to go, really, or how cool you want your CPU etc.. water cooling would be the best if you really want to go mad with it... System will be able to boot as many OS as you like, provided you have enough drives/partitions & space and your bootloaders are all setup properly.. But unless you illegally download or otherwise hack OSX you won't get it on a normal PC (www.insanelymac.com for more info on that!) I'll keep that in mind-are there any cases you would recommend? For OC'ing, I'll prob just OC it to about 3.6 ghz-maybe 4.0 ghz is I don't wuss out lol:waughh: Can anyone point me in the ight direction as for what hardware I would need for that sort of OC'ing? I have a legal version of Leopard-I just modified the dvd following a tutorial from that website.:banana Also, what would WEI score would I have if I followed Stormdragon's rig suggestion? BTW, I'm not much of a regular customer at QMB, how much discount do they normally give you and how much do you reckon they'll give me? Hope I'm not to much of a nuisance:D Blam	Blam (54)
715793	2008-10-30 19:58:00	Just pop them an email requesting a quote and see what you get back. I can't really say whats normal as at times I'm requesting anywhere from 1 to 25 computers. No idea about WEI scores but should be quite high.	stormdragon (6013)
715794	2008-10-30 20:17:00	But Legend isn't Palit . . . though I have seen pictures of "legend" cards and they look like they are built with the bare minimum to function and nothing more . They were . I bought them, not just looked at pictures . And they confirmed it too . All this about cases . Look whats important is whats inside the case . The case itself is mostly looks . Yes there are the top of the line with removable everything, aluminium, loads of fans etc . But almost any case can have extra fans added if necessary . So long as what you put in it will fit, you like the design, then it really doesn't matter . As for the comment on bending, what do you do with your cases? Boot them round the floor?	pctek (84)
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