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Thread ID: 74105	2006-11-11 21:01:00	Imagine If Other Products Where Like Broadband	Trev (427)	PC World Chat

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498233	2006-11-11 21:01:00	Imagine if other products and services worked on the same basis as Broadband. You could buy a carton of "up to a litre" of milk and find you only have 200ml. Gas stations could pump a mystery amount of petrol into your car so long as it was advertised as "up to one litre" At peak times, the lights in your home would run very dim and your electric jug would take three times as long to boil. Trevor :illogical	Trev (427)
498234	2006-11-11 21:19:00	Imagine if other products and services worked on the same basis as Broadband. You could buy a carton of "up to a litre" of milk and find you only have 200ml. Gas stations could pump a mystery amount of petrol into your car so long as it was advertised as "up to one litre" At peak times, the lights in your home would run very dim and your electric jug would take three times as long to boil. Trevor :illogical Sounds just like it used to be during the war in the UK with rationing and the power supply being throttled. The shopkeepers would say, we can only let you have a bit of this today Mrs, but I'll make it up with a bit of suet. And you were only allowed 5 inches of water in your bath once a week, and the bath water was shared between several people. Ah the good old days :)	Terry Porritt (14)
498235	2006-11-11 21:37:00	Imagine if other products and services worked on the same basis as Broadband. You could buy a carton of "up to a litre" of milk and find you only have 200ml. Gas stations could pump a mystery amount of petrol into your car so long as it was advertised as "up to one litre" At peak times, the lights in your Haha. Good points :p	jermsie (6820)
498236	2006-11-11 22:16:00	Imagine if other products and services worked on the same basis as Broadband. You could buy a carton of "up to a litre" of milk and find you only have 200ml. Gas stations could pump a mystery amount of petrol into your car so long as it was advertised as "up to one litre" At peak times, the lights in your home would run very dim and your electric jug would take three times as long to boil. Trevor :illogical I love it. Perjaps we should ALL e-mail this to Telecom, aimed particularly at Gattling PJ	Poppa John (284)
498237	2006-11-11 22:42:00	I love it. Perjaps we should ALL e-mail this to Telecom, aimed particularly at Gattling PJCan't do that, although we have a guarantee that the email will be delivered to its destination, we have no guarantee that ALL the email will arrive or when it will arrive :p	Myth (110)
498238	2006-11-11 23:11:00	Can't do that, although we have a guarantee that the email will be delivered to its destination, we have no guarantee that ALL the email will arrive or when it will arrive :p Maybe half of it will get through? Then the next half will get through tommorw.... :p ~Matt :)	matty3 (5363)
498239	2006-11-11 23:40:00	Imagine if other products and services worked on the same basis as Broadband.Trevor :illogical But they don't Trev, apart from electricity they are not shared resources. Electricity does vary in voltage according to demand, and blackouts do occur when demand exceeds supply. IMHO the root of the broadband problem is the number of people who use it for serial downloading. We have a finite resource available and like it or not, that resource must pass through equipment owned and controlled by Telecom. If a small number of people use a disproportionate amount of that resource then those actions should and will be curtailed by the service provider. The Go-Large "abuser pool" seems to me to be a very fair way of addressing that problem, though it sounds like there are a few bugs yet to be ironed out. I have to say that although I was already on a full speed plan, I have enjoyed consistently higher speeds since the changeover and I attribute that improvement to not having to share BW with people downloading multiple Gigabytes of information daily. I see it as a fair and equitable system, sensibly based on traffic and individual users' downloading stats. Can anybody think of a better system for managing a limited resource? Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
498240	2006-11-12 00:46:00	IMHO the root of the broadband problem is the number of people who use it for serial downloading. We have a finite resource available and like it or not, that resource must pass through equipment owned and controlled by Telecom. I have to say that although I was already on a full speed plan, I have enjoyed consistently higher speeds since the changeover and I attribute that improvement to not having to share BW with people downloading multiple Gigabytes of information daily. Well you would be wrong. Yes there are the downloaders, they existed before 3.5Mbps and before "full speed". Here for instance with a very small population there are hardley any "downloaders" and speed is consistently crap. Has been since the 3.5 plans came into effect. It makes no difference what time of day or night it is either. And, lastly Telecom admitted that our exchange is the problem. So sorry, you can't dismiss it as being a greedy user problem. You probably would care more if it was affecting you.	pctek (84)
498241	2006-11-12 01:05:00	IMHO the root of the broadband problem is the number of people who use it for serial downloading. We have a finite resource available and like it or not, that resource must pass through equipment owned and controlled by Telecom. If a small number of people use a disproportionate amount of that resource then those actions should and will be curtailed by the service provider. The Go-Large "abuser pool" seems to me to be a very fair way of addressing that problem, though it sounds like there are a few bugs yet to be ironed out. The problem is the people, who use p2p / torrents, if p2p / torrents where banned outright then I think NZ internet speeds data caps etc... Would be a lot better. There are some people in this world like photographers Graphic designers, web designers / Developers, work from home people etc….. who some times / always need to download/ upload large amounts of data.	stu161204 (123)
498242	2006-11-12 01:22:00	NZ does not even make it feasible for the avg family in 2006 to go online for email, skype, download the odd game or software demo, vid trailer able to utilise their digicam, cellphone, iPod for a fair fee. True there is the $80 plan or $100 or $150 and then its 2c a MB or 5GB at $100. Even closing it off or slowed down is not an option. The Go Large Plan adverts that you can use the net non stop for days, play games, listen to music and video. Hmmmm..... I was on the xtra site and it says if you find it hard to contain your usage then go large, yeah right. I love their adverts too, we will never slow you down to dialup and never charge you one cent more but but but the fineprint says "traffic management policy applies" see our website for details, LOL.	Nomad (952)
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