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| Thread ID: 74173 | 2006-11-13 21:37:00 | Gang wars at home | never-u-mind (6500) | PC World Chat |
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| 498901 | 2006-11-18 00:12:00 | No guessing allowed here,look up facts b4 commenting. that was the point of my first "is that proportionate" statement |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 498902 | 2006-11-18 00:49:00 | that was the point of my first "is that proportionate" statement Yes,do you think that tells us the facts? |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 498903 | 2006-11-18 01:17:00 | Yes,do you think that tells us the facts? no, look, i was asking if you infact had a reliable source (although it is always possible your original statement was a random speculation) i didnt give any source as i didnt give any info - i was questioning your statement which is without a source also, not that it matters: i would expect the number of people on sickness benefits to have increased at the same rate as our population has been, so i was asking if your statement "there are more sickness beneficiaries than there ever were" was considering that fact. i do agree that "there are a lot of single mothers who choose the life as a profession" - even if the term "a lot" can be very subjective |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 498904 | 2006-11-18 01:41:00 | no, look, i was asking if you infact had a reliable source (although it is always possible your original statement was a random speculation) i didnt give any source as i didnt give any info - i was questioning your statement which is without a source also, not that it matters: i would expect the number of people on sickness benefits to have increased at the same rate as our population has been, so i was asking if your statement "there are more sickness beneficiaries than there ever were" was considering that fact. i do agree that "there are a lot of single mothers who choose the life as a profession" - even if the term "a lot" can be very subjective Some of us look at the world through rose tinted glasses,others see the real world. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 498905 | 2006-11-18 09:54:00 | Hmmmm wouldn't it be truly horrible to blame such terrible things in our world/country/neighborhood on “beneficiaries” “single mums” “poor people”, blah blah blah. Wouldn't it be truly horrible to blame such things on parents and once again not look at the choices that are made by said individuals. There are a lot of parents single or not who have no money, have to be on the benefit for what ever reason but who's children grow up to be healthy and happy. I think older children/teens have a choice. Perhaps they grow up in crap holes with gang member family's but some of those children make the choice to learn from the mistakes of their parents and lead different lives. I know that there are many difficult life stories out there because most of all of us have lived it but can you honestly tell me that your parents made you exactly the way you are today. Has anyone out there had a parent who had to go on the doll etc for a while? Anyone who had a parent or family member involved with drugs/alcohol? Why is it that its so easy for us to blame the parents of others but when it comes to our own lives we see not clearly at all. I'm not pointing any fingers but to point out that this is another thread that has ended up blaming society and the poor and single moms blah blah blah when in my opinion that s**t of a child and those s**ty gang members are wholly to blame for the choices they made when they made them, or for not having the balls to stand on their own 2 feet and just walk away from doing something as disgusting as they did. personally i think its screwing up the world today because children are being told/have been taught that they are not responsible for what they do. Just a reminder .... Rich people are also involved in crime. Rich people are single mums. Rich people can sometimes be on the doll/benefit. Rich people can be involved in gangs. Rich people can be crappy parents too. |
never-u-mind (6500) | ||
| 498906 | 2006-11-18 20:31:00 | Hmmmm wouldn't it be truly horrible to blame such terrible things in our world/country/neighbourhood on “beneficiaries” “single mums” “poor people”, blah blah blah . Wouldn't it be truly horrible to blame such things on parents and once again not look at the choices that are made by said individuals . There are a lot of parents single or not who have no money, have to be on the benefit for what ever reason but who's children grow up to be healthy and happy . I think older children/teens have a choice . Perhaps they grow up in crap holes with gang member family's but some of those children make the choice to learn from the mistakes of their parents and lead different lives . I know that there are many difficult life stories out there because most of all of us have lived it but can you honestly tell me that your parents made you exactly the way you are today . Has anyone out there had a parent who had to go on the doll etc for a while? Anyone who had a parent or family member involved with drugs/alcohol? Why is it that its so easy for us to blame the parents of others but when it comes to our own lives we see not clearly at all . I'm not pointing any fingers but to point out that this is another thread that has ended up blaming society and the poor and single moms blah blah blah when in my opinion that s**t of a child and those s**ty gang members are wholly to blame for the choices they made when they made them, or for not having the balls to stand on their own 2 feet and just walk away from doing something as disgusting as they did . personally i think its screwing up the world today because children are being told/have been taught that they are not responsible for what they do . Just a reminder . . . . Rich people are also involved in crime . Rich people are single mums . Rich people can sometimes be on the doll/benefit . Rich people can be involved in gangs . Rich people can be crappy parents too . Do check proportions,there in lies the answer |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 498907 | 2006-11-19 01:02:00 | Do check proportions,there in lies the answer har har - look, i'm sorry i questioned one of your statements and you didn't back it up, now grow up and get over it as for 'never-u-mind', i do actually agree with you too, but i still think the parents (and peers) have alot to do with their child's persona/morals which will ultimately affect their decisions later in life - and this even includes the rich parents who's children don't realise that things don't just pay for themselves (man my mate is going to have a shock when he moves out, or even has to start paying for his own petrol/insurance/repair bills for his 2.5L Citroen - not that that would lead to gang involvement, but it's an example of how one's upbringing can affect their later life - he'll just buy/pay and send the bills to his parents and expects others to do the same, not realising all his friends actually have to work for money) |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 498908 | 2006-11-19 02:48:00 | har har - look, i'm sorry i questioned one of your statements and you didn't back it up, now grow up and get over it as for 'never-u-mind', i do actually agree with you too, but i still think the parents (and peers) have alot to do with their child's persona/morals which will ultimately affect their decisions later in life - and this even includes the rich parents who's children don't realise that things don't just pay for themselves (man my mate is going to have a shock when he moves out, or even has to start paying for his own petrol/insurance/repair bills for his 2.5L Citroen - not that that would lead to gang involvement, but it's an example of how one's upbringing can affect their later life - he'll just buy/pay and send the bills to his parents and expects others to do the same, not realising all his friends actually have to work for money) Let me just say............. www.youtube.com |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 498909 | 2006-11-19 03:17:00 | Do check proportions,there in lies the answer Let me just say . . . . . . . . . . . . . . youtube . com/watch?v=BeRGpmrWcKA" target="_blank">www . youtube . com I feel quite ripped off by such replies . |
never-u-mind (6500) | ||
| 498910 | 2006-11-19 03:29:00 | I feel quite ripped off by such replies. One must pay for being to serious. |
Cicero (40) | ||
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