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Thread ID: 74167	2006-11-13 18:28:00	Diesel Ute Won't Start in Cold	pctek (84)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
498803	2006-11-14 18:55:00	Cold Weather Diesel Engine Starting Tips bioengr.ag.utk.edu very useful. However think we're going to have to come up with millions of $ to get the injectors done.	pctek (84)
498804	2006-11-14 19:48:00	Can't think of many 86 utes worth millions :-) Does the motor crank over at a decent speed? You have changed the battery but are all the battery connections clean, no oxides etc?	PaulD (232)
498805	2006-11-14 22:56:00	$millions = relative to budget Anyway he rang a diesel place to see about the injectors and the mechanic said it would run like **** all the time if that as the case and suggested checking the glow plugs again. And voila, another dead one. We have found the "whatever brand they are" seem to be useless, the bosch last but these others don't. We just got glow plugs 3 months ago. Oh well, 2 more Bosch and we'll see.... They're not cheap either...	pctek (84)
498806	2006-11-15 00:56:00	For less than $400 you can buy a can of "cold start". I am not sure how much it costs as the boss supplies it. Many a morning I have to start an ancient County tractor during winter. This, sometimes, when it has not been started for more than a week. One small squirt down the engine breather or air intake does the job. Go talk to your local repco or similar. Do you get a lot of black smoke from the exhaust when running? Is it turbo diesel?	Sweep (90)
498807	2006-11-15 01:19:00	Its not a turbo. Black smoke when its being a pian to start, not when running.	pctek (84)
498808	2006-11-15 02:02:00	For less than $400 you can buy a can of "cold start" . I am not sure how much it costs as the boss supplies it . That's very good stuff! I have a can here and used it yesterday to start my wife's old car before delivering it to the wreckers . It hadn't been started for 3-4 months, and although the battery was good (recharged) it just wasn't sucking the gas through . I gave the air intake a good squirt and it roared into life . After a couple of those it stayed running too . Those products are loaded with ether, at least the can I have is, and would be magic with a diesel I'm sure . I'll bet it would start it with the glow plugs dead as well, it is potent stuff . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
498809	2006-11-15 02:33:00	More details please, Billy. Brand name? Size of can? Price?	Laura (43)
498810	2006-11-15 02:56:00	Sounds like just what's needed for PCs which won't boot . :D Ether used to be commonly used to start diesels . Much easier with hand cranking of single and twin cylinder engines . It also helped to start kerosene engines if they wouldn't start easily on petrol . I once started a lawnmower engine with propane . :D Acetylene made it knock badly, but propane (LPG) was great .	Graham L (2)
498811	2006-11-15 09:23:00	More details please, Billy. Brand name? Size of can? Price? *Cough* Very old spray can branded "Easy Start" and manufactured in Auckland by Jaymac (no longer in business). It is an ether-petrol blend, and interestingly, the instructions for use with diesel engines say to disconnect the glow plugs before using. There are modern equivalents, CRC make one "Engine Start" as do Valvoline (Pyroil) and price isn't critical because you use very little per start. This product said to use a 2 second spray into the air intake, but I found that 1 second was plenty, you only want it to kick over a few revs at high speed and I was getting a few hundred revs per spray. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
498812	2006-11-16 03:32:00	Probably any aerosol can would work these days: now the propellant is a "hydrocarbon" (probably a butane/propane mix: "LPG"). Just select one which has contents which won't hurt the engine. Hair spray would probably be a bad idea. WD-40 might be better. ;)	Graham L (2)
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