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Thread ID: 74441	2006-11-22 21:35:00	Any experienced genealogists here?	Billy T (70)	PC World Chat

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501248	2006-11-23 17:43:00	Billy you are in much the same position as I was when I first started doing my tree. I had about 20 names to start with.Now I have over 3000. The first thing you have to decide is how much money are you prepared to spend. It's not cheap! The LDS are a good place to visit. A good place to start is toi use a professional researcher. I can give you the name of one if you are interested. Cost you about $20 an hour. Give him what you have ,names places and approx dates, and he will dig out all the family. Once you have these it's not hard (just time consuming) to add to your basic list. Join Rootsweb forum. It's surprising who will answer your queries and what you can learn One tip. Don't believe everything you were told of your ancestry when you were a child. I was told my ancestors came from Poland. I eventually discovered them in Germany. Good luck.	JJJJJ (528)
501249	2006-11-23 21:01:00	One tip. Don't believe everything you were told of your ancestry when you were a child. I was told my ancestors came from Poland. I eventually discovered them in Germany.You are right on that one Jack, Mrs T wrote for her father's military service records, believing that he had either been in the army and posted overseas before being invalided back to NZ, or was rejected when he volunteered because he had crook feet and then served in the home defence forces. Turned out neither was correct! He had signed up alright, but due to other health problems associated with fermented and spirituous liquors (we will draw a veil over the details but he seems to have been easily led) he was honourably discharged after 18 months, some of which was in rehab, and a few weeks (*cough*) were also spent at Ardmore. He was then returned to civvy life. His service record made interesting reading and you could just about write a film script around it! He can't have been too bad though, he still received the NZ Defence medal and the 39-45 War medal which all servicemen were given provided they didn't get court martialled out. Back to my original query, it seems that there is no easy way out of this, but Laura's comment about babies in others' graves might be useful, as the child was purportedly buried in the same cemetery as its grandparents. Although the rumour also has it that the child was buried in a pauper's grave, it may well be interred with one or other of his grandparents, so the Sexton's records might be the best place to start. That way we might get a name and a date of death or burial, which could get us in to BDM via the back door. As an aside, this infant was a child of Mrs T's father's first marriage, and the mother is still alive and lucid at 82 years of age, but for very complicated reasons it is neither practicable nor possible for us to contact her and ask questions. The existing (and thorough) geneaology research from that branch of the family doesn't record this mystery child either. Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
501250	2006-11-23 21:51:00	Yes the cemetery records would be a good place to start. Some cemeteries are even on line with searchable records. Worth looking into. For a search such as yours a personal visit might be better. Cemetery staff are usualy very helpful. Of course the obvious thing would be an approach to the 82 year old lady.If you can't do it yourself get someone to do it for you. A professional would be your best bet. There would be no need for your name to be mentioned. It's surprising how people mellow at that age and it's not hard to get them talking. Another possability. You know the cemetery.And you have a fair idea of the dates. Do a search of the birth records for the years concerned. If the farther's surname is not to common it shouldn't take long to scan for all births with that name. Ditto the death records. Always bear in mind that these records are not infallible. What is recorded is from information supplied by relatives etc. I have a death certificate here giving the deceased's parent's names. Yet it turns out that the chap concerned changed his name before migrating to NZ.The parent's names are as phony as a two bob watch. The info was supplied by his wife. So he probably lied to her too.	JJJJJ (528)
501251	2006-11-23 22:05:00	Double Post:blush:	Billy T (70)
501252	2006-11-23 22:07:00	Of course the obvious thing would be an approach to the 82 year old lady.If you can't do it yourself get someone to do it for you. A professional would be your best bet. No hope there, contact was made some time back but she has closed that chapter in her life and has made it clear that she does not want to be taken back there by anybody, be it family or professionals or whoever. She may mellow, but it is more likely she will die first! If the farther's surname is not to common it shouldn't take long to scan for all births with that name. :lol: It is about the most common name possible, though his christian name was relatively rare and he had no second name, which makes it easier to know if you have struck the correct "Joe Bloggs" rather than wading through the screeds of Joe John Bloggs or Joe Jim Bloggs. We will start with the cemetery records I think, but will put out a feeler to the mother just in case. It is most likely that she will deny it though; because I suspect that was the reason she married if you know what I mean.;) Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
501253	2008-06-13 09:06:00	Hi there... Yup they are right about starting by going to your local Family History Center (LDS Church) and use the information you have gathered in order to find more data about your ancestors. The folks are friendly there and you aint have to be a Mormon to use their facilities because so far most of them are open to public. There are also other useful sites in the Internet which are free where you can gather information concerning genealogy...	wyattmtthws (11511)
501254	2008-06-13 09:30:00	Rootsweb is probably the most help forum. I used it to find my cannibalistic viking madmen who rather enjoyed being manimals!	rob_on_guitar (4196)
501255	2008-06-14 10:08:00	You may find this link (freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com)usefull.	mikebartnz (21)
501256	2008-06-14 15:12:00	The US is currently redacting ALL BDM records for "National Security" reasons . It used to be law that all births and deaths were recorded and made public via a newspaper of 200,000+ circulation . No more . Funeral arrangements are no longer required to be posted by law any more . A family CAN put something in the paper, but it is not required . Makes it tough to find records now as only the immediate blood-relatives are allowed to see any records that used to be public information before . They must prove a blood, not marriage relationships, to the person of interest to get whatever info they think they need . With the new gay marriage, the marriage certificates and legal stuff is secret too .	SurferJoe46 (51)
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