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Thread ID: 74593	2006-11-28 09:10:00	I've lost 2017 kilometres of logbook	george12 (7)	PC World Chat

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502739	2006-11-28 09:10:00	Hey guys, For all you tax-savvy people, I have a big problem. I run a computer repair business, and the vast majority of my jobs are callouts. So I needed a vehicle logbook to claim back those K's on my tax return ($0.62 per KM). I had racked up 2017 km (yes, I remember the number exactly) when I lost the logbook about a month ago. Knowing that thats worth a whole lot of money to me, I looked EVERYWHERE for the book but I've had no luck after a month (I bought a new logbook and used that in the meanwhile). Is there anything I can do? I KNOW how many K's were in that logbook but I can't prove it. I've used this book from the start, so I don't have 90 days of history, and I don't have even a third of my petrol receipts to base anything off. All I have is the exact number of business kilometres :(. I could probably find about $500 worth of receipts for my car, petrol and maintancene, probably about $2000 worth if I use my bank statement. But only about half of that is business, and I need a permittable way to find out a percentage, IF i can even do this. What do you think? I'm out of ideas and don't want to pay $250 more tax. Please don't just say $250 is nothing, I can pay it, but I'm 16 and it's actually a fair bit of money to me. Thanks in advance	george12 (7)
502740	2006-11-28 10:01:00	My girlfriend (who was a payclerk administrator) suggests calling the IRD and talking to the business advisor; as that sort of thing is their forte.	Myth (110)
502741	2006-11-28 10:10:00	Hi George - from my experience you will find the local IRD very helpful and they even tend to believe many unsupported claims..... try asking for the local small business manager.	Scouse (83)
502742	2006-11-28 19:10:00	Hi George - from my experience you will find the local IRD very unhelpful. You'd have your invoice book for your jobs right? So rewrite the old logbook. It might not be exact but as you say you know how many Kms it was. I'm about to ring IRD yet again for the 3rd month in a row after about their incompetence and inability to read a simple form. Not to mention the amount of times I've had to ring and get them to correct their mistakes in: GST Provisional Payments to them It must be a requirement to work there that you have to be an idiot. Todays query will concern the $0.00 we apparently owe and they will be variously penalising us, sending it to the debt collectors etc. Maybe I should write a cheque for $0.00, except I don't have a cheque book, online payments don't allow me to deposit $0.00.	pctek (84)
502743	2006-11-28 20:14:00	how much of a % of use of the vechile was for buisness use. you only need to the log book to prove the % of use.	tweak'e (69)
502744	2006-11-29 00:01:00	You also only have to have 3 months of travelling logged once every 3 years or so to claim from IRD. If you can't find you log book another option is to just do another 3 months of logs before the 31st March 07.... easy as you've got 4 months left :D (to be honest doing a log has to be the most annoying thing in the world!)	Shortcircuit (1666)
502745	2006-11-29 02:50:00	Hi George - It must be a requirement to work there that you have to be an idiot. Todays query will concern the $0.00 we apparently owe and they will be variously penalising us, sending it to the debt collectors etc. Maybe I should write a cheque for $0.00, except I don't have a cheque book, online payments don't allow me to deposit $0.00. Ask them to call personally to collect it as you don't wish to risk that sort of money to normal methods in case it goes astray. It would be hard to prove that you had actually sent $0.00 (GST incl.) Or send an empty envelope, (and request a receipt) ;) Don't forget to ask them to have a nice day.	R2x1 (4628)
502746	2006-11-29 03:45:00	Ask them to call personally to collect it as you don't wish to risk that sort of money to normal methods in case it goes astray. I've done this months whinge. Firstly they tell me I don't have authority to discuss this with them. I point out I have been discussing GST with them for the last 12 years or so. She checks with "helpdesk" (?) - Oh yes, so I do. Then she tells me exactly what I already know and have rung them to SORT OUT! This goes around for a bit and she consults the "helpdesk" (?) again and tells me its all sorted now, no worries it was because of blah blah reason. (One of those 1 dept doesn't know what the other is doing things) Told her no doubt they'll send me a new lot again next month....	pctek (84)
502747	2006-11-29 06:01:00	Tweaké and shorty have missed the point. The claim is being made on km's travelled using the IRD reimbursing rate, not a % of actual expenses. Therefore a logbook must be kept at all times, not just 3 months.	wotz (335)
502748	2006-11-29 07:50:00	See, I'm perfectly happy to use a percentage instead, calculated using the current log book. Problem is, I don't have all the receipts that relate to my car. There's probably $1500 worth of petrol and $500 worth of maintanence that I have thrown in the bin, because I assumed the logbook would suffice. Before you say it, yes, I know that that was stupid. However I considered them personal, not business or part-business receipts, as I simply paid myself a petrol allowance. I will try ringing the IRD, though, that might work. And the IRD website says somewhere that a logbook without the start and finish KMs would be inadequite, pctek, and also there's probably about 700km of business travel that wasn't invoiced as it wasn't for customers.	george12 (7)
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