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| Thread ID: 74864 | 2006-12-07 23:42:00 | What is rangatiratanga? | Renmoo (66) | PC World Chat |
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| 505015 | 2006-12-07 23:42:00 | . | Renmoo (66) | ||
| 505016 | 2006-12-07 23:46:00 | Hi James. Just pop it in to Google. | Scouse (83) | ||
| 505017 | 2006-12-07 23:48:00 | What are Maori dictionaries/encyclopaedias for? There are online versions. They can help in preventing post-examination boredom. Edit: Scouse's version says the same thing more concisely. |
Laura (43) | ||
| 505018 | 2006-12-07 23:54:00 | Rangitira is high up chief or warrior. my understanding of rangitiratanga is of high up moari leaders.......... such as this person or persons en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org The most contentious phrase from the Treaty of Waitangi, tino rangatiratanga has become something of a rallying cry for proponents of Maori sovereignty. beetle |
beetle (243) | ||
| 505019 | 2006-12-07 23:54:00 | Wouldn't it have been kind & friendly just to have answered the question? Just like Beetle did PJ |
Poppa John (284) | ||
| 505020 | 2006-12-08 00:04:00 | Because PJ.....if every hand that is held out is fed.....then the owner of the hand will never learn to feed himself..... TM |
allblack (6574) | ||
| 505021 | 2006-12-08 00:24:00 | Wouldn't it have been kind & friendly just to have answered the question? Just like Beetle did PJ I didn't think so at that momemt, PJ.. As beetle said, the meaning of rangatiratanga is "the most contentious phrase from the Treaty of Waitangi." And as Maori themselves don't all agree on its meaning there, the likelihood that a definitive version would come from a computer Chat forum is simply laughable. But I suspect James knew that - and posted the question because he knew it was a controversial word & he wanted another "opinionated" thread... Otherwise, why would he risk appearing to be either too thick to know about Google or too lazy to use it himself? Those aren't adjectives I'd normally apply to James. So, as you can see, I'm actually flattering him. Come on, James. Confess. |
Laura (43) | ||
| 505022 | 2006-12-08 00:32:00 | A rodent annoyance bell? | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 505023 | 2006-12-08 01:05:00 | But I suspect James knew that - and posted the question because he knew it was a controversial word & he wanted another "opinionated" thread... Otherwise, why would he risk appearing to be either too thick to know about Google or too lazy to use it himself? Those aren't adjectives I'd normally apply to James. So, as you can see, I'm actually flattering him. Come on, James. Confess. By any chance, are you my mom masquerading as a kiwi named "Laura" on PressF1? :D I was checking out "Treaty of Waitangi" on a website when it says (in my own words) the treaty states that the Maori chiefs give the rights of sovereignty to the British crown while the crown acknowledges the Maori tribe as tangata whenua (the first people) and that "their rangatiratanga" is guaranteed. I looked up the net and found the definition of the word. It says "Rights of autonomous self-regulation, the authority of the iwi or hapū to make decisions and control resources". My question is what's the difference between "sovereignty" and "rangatiratanga"? To me, it seems that the British colony was ruling the country on a large scale (i.e. managing the whole country), while the Maori were controlling and maintaining farmlands etc. Cheers :) P.S. What's dinner for today? :D |
Renmoo (66) | ||
| 505024 | 2006-12-08 01:07:00 | Because PJ.....if every hand that is held out is fed.....then the owner of the hand will never learn to feed himself..... TM Then what's the point of having PressF1 if everyone can just "google their way through and find their answers?" :D Cheers :) |
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