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Thread ID: 74864	2006-12-07 23:42:00	What is rangatiratanga?	Renmoo (66)	PC World Chat

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505025	2006-12-08 01:09:00	Ummm......I have views/opinions on this subject.....and that word......but might keep them to myself meantime. Will follow this with interest..... T	allblack (6574)
505026	2006-12-08 03:35:00	Ummm......I have views/opinions on this subject.....and that word......but might keep them to myself meantime. Will follow this with interest..... TPity a certain female calling itself Laura didnt have these values Jameskan, from my (somewhat) limited knowledge, when the Treaty was translated to Maori by Hobson? he mistakenly put the word 'rangatiratanga' or chieftainship/sovereignty (which to Maori means 'we will look after you/your people, but you still run the land) as his translation of governorship. Governorship as you know essentially means 'we will rule over you, and own the land'. To Maori, 'kawanatanga' would have been a more appropriate word for Hobson? to use (as its meaning is closer to the English meaning of governorship) Again, this is from my limited understanding	Myth (110)
505027	2006-12-08 17:12:00	Tazz....that facetious comment to Laura was uncalled for, and made no sense. A retraction may be in order....	allblack (6574)
505028	2006-12-08 19:21:00	Tazz....that facetious comment to Laura was uncalled for, and made no sense. A retraction may be in order.... Made no sense how? Her second post in this thread was neither helpful nor warranted, and basically accused Jameskan of trolling. Her first comment was basically a chance just to say something, again unhelpful. She may get an apology when she quits the bi*ch comments and starts being helpful :)	Myth (110)
505029	2006-12-08 19:57:00	Then what's the point of having PressF1 if everyone can just "google their way through and find their answers?" :D Cheers :) PressF1, to start with, was a COMPUTER help forum in my opinion. Then we received two forums. Help and Chat. We have some very good people here who know through experience what works for them. What works for me may not work for you in life skills. If you use Google, (as I do), you will find heaps of answers but which answer is the absolutley correct answer? This depends too, in Google, on how you frame the question. You may get around 109,000 different hits for rangatiratanga. Which one you believe will depend on you and actuall research you have done.	Sweep (90)
505030	2006-12-08 21:41:00	"Rangatiratanga" is a resource being mined for gain - principal beneficiaries being some of the legal profession. Principal contributers are all others.	R2x1 (4628)
505031	2006-12-09 01:32:00	PressF1, to start with, was a COMPUTER help forum in my opinion. Then we received two forums. Help and Chat. I was refering to PressF1 section of PressF1 PCWorld forum, Sweep:rolleyes: We have some very good people here who know through experience what works for them. What works for me may not work for you in life skills. If you use Google, (as I do), you will find heaps of answers but which answer is the absolutley correct answer? This depends too, in Google, on how you frame the question. You may get around 109,000 different hits for rangatiratanga. Which one you believe will depend on you and actuall research you have done. Yeah, but as Laura suggested, I was just looking for a second opinion since there are a lot of wisemen over here.;) Cheers :)	Renmoo (66)
505032	2006-12-09 02:31:00	I was refering to PressF1 section of PressF1 PCWorld forum, Sweep:rolleyes: Yeah, but as Laura suggested, I was just looking for a second opinion since there are a lot of wisemen over here.;) Cheers :) But you posted in the chat forum did you not? I don't need to argue with you and I really have no idea what a rangatiratanga is. I have a fair idea but I can't say I have a correct answer. I am not here to do your research and learning for you. Go do the Google, Reading, asking questions like, "why is the sky blue." and come up with your own conclusions. It is not over to me to tell you what to believe. I think a Holden is better than a Ford. I think that the AMD CPU is better than Intel pricewise. I also think that you can think what you like.	Sweep (90)
505033	2006-12-09 03:03:00	I might add that the current government has come to the conclusion that all historical claims have to be put in by 1st Sept next year I think. A fair proportion of people born here can give a collective sigh of relief. Unfortunately 2020 is the year where all claims will be settled. I should live so long. While I feel that the Maori had a raw deal some years back I don't believe that claims can go on forever. I will say more than that. From memory the generation before me banned persons speaking the Maori language in schools. This in my humble opinion was unfair. I went to school in Wanganui for my primary years and I remember asking Mum & Dad could I go to the Pa. I had my bike so therefore a means of transport. My Dad told me no so I didn't. Maybe I should look up my forefathers from six generations back in Ireland and moan about being kicked off my potato farm.	Sweep (90)
505034	2006-12-09 03:59:00	.......Maybe I should look up my forefathers from six generations back in Ireland and moan about being kicked off my potato farm.It's a strange issue simply because it goes back so far, and because people are quick to turn an ancestral claim into a racial one. Given that the country has been a multi racial melting pot for the last 150 or more years, we are effectively talking about how great great great great grandfather harry did a dirty deal with great great great great grandfather Rangi and messed up the inheritance for the grandparents that side of the family. That however makes the claims no less legitimate, just an odd case, and one that's not worth getting too upset about.	personthingy (1670)
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