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Thread ID: 95063 2008-11-23 04:15:00 Networking issue Router/Modem Warhog (7975) Press F1
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722180 2008-11-23 04:15:00 Family member wanted to replace old modem/router but ordered a Belkin N1 Vision Wireless Router (after seeing it recommended in PC World). It's only a router, with no modem.

Therefore we bought a Belkin Modem F5D*some number I can't remember*.

Can connect to the internet if just connected to modem but not through the router. The main problem seems to be that the router asks for the isp connection info again but doesn't offer an option for connecting via PPPOA (what the modem and our internet is connected by) only PPPOE but is defaulted at Dynamic.

I can't seem to find any bridge option and have no clue what I'm looking for. Google and the manual have been little help.

Have set the modem ip to 192.168.1.1 and the router to 192.168.1.100
Warhog (7975)
722181 2008-11-23 04:50:00 Does both the modem and the router act as a switch? - i.e. are there multiple RJ45 jacks for the same network? - if so just uplink using the switch part of the devices (don't connect using the router RJ45 jack). Hope this makes sense? johnd (85)
722182 2008-11-23 05:08:00 I think I understand. The router acts as a switch, but the modem has just the one jack.

Connect it into one of the other jacks not intended for a modem?

This is still annoying, as it would be the last jack left, and there's the possibility I'll have to plug another computer into it yet.

Will try anyway.
Warhog (7975)
722183 2008-11-23 05:15:00 Didn't work. Warhog (7975)
722184 2008-11-23 05:26:00 Suggest you turn DHCP on in the modem, off on the WAP and check that it is on for the network card. johnd (85)
722185 2008-11-23 05:34:00 Did you read the manual and follow what it says / shows ???

The modem plugs into the Yellow port on the back of the Router, the PC's then plug into 1 of the other 4 ports,

The Manual (www.belkin.com) is down loadable from that link, click on the pdf file and it will download, look on pages 15 onwards, it shows how to connect it up.

This manual will also be on the CD that came with the router.

You dont setup the IP to 198.162.1.1 The manual advices ( page 22) as 192.168.2.1 is the routers Default IP.

You May have a problem if you need to use PPoA as most of those routers dont have it, only PPoE.
They are good for Cable but so so sh1t Hot I have found for ADSL, as we mainly use PPOA.
wainuitech (129)
722186 2008-11-23 05:52:00 Did you read the manual and follow what it says / shows ???

The modem plugs into the Yellow port on the back of the Router, the PC's then plug into 1 of the other 4 ports,

The Manual (www.belkin.com) is down loadable from that link, click on the pdf file and it will download, look on pages 15 onwards, it shows how to connect it up.

This manual will also be on the CD that came with the router.

You dont setup the IP to 198.162.1.1 The manual advices ( page 22) as 192.168.2.1 is the routers Default IP.

You May have a problem if you need to use PPoA as most of those routers dont have it, only PPoE.
They are good for Cable but so so sh1t Hot I have found for ADSL, as we mainly use PPOA.

Of course I read. That's what I had originally, but it started demanding connection settings. Will try what else has been suggested.
Warhog (7975)
722187 2008-11-23 06:30:00 Of course I read . That's what I had originally, but it started demanding connection settings . Will try what else has been suggested .
You must have missed the bit about the IP settings eh :p
Have set the modem ip to 192 . 168 . 1 . 1 and the router to 192 . 168 . 1 . 100 The manual says 192 . 168 . 2 . 1 as the gateway .
The only connection settings if I'm reading you right will be the user name and password . Only managed to get one of those working - and even then it was a fluke ( cant remember what I did though) but it wasn't meant to work .

On cable they are a piece of cake, as you have a static IP from the ISP .
wainuitech (129)
722188 2008-11-23 06:41:00 You must have missed the bit about the IP settings eh :p The manual says 192.168.2.1 as the gateway.
The only connection settings if I'm reading you right will be the user name and password . Only managed to get one of those working - and even then it was a fluke ( cant remember what I did though) but it wasn't meant to work.

On cable they are a piece of cake, but NZ ADSL mainly uses PPPoA and those routers dont have the setting.

It was set as 192.168.2.1 but I changed it to 192.168.1.100 in an attempt to make it part of the modem network (192.168.1.1) so it would receive the connection. Modem was originally 10.1.1.1 .

It must be possible to get these wired up, the router is sold everywhere and recommended in a bunch of places in NZ, how do they get it working?

Basically, I plug the modem into the computer, configure it to connect to Xnet through PPPoA.

Then plug the modem into the modem jack on the router. Get to router setup on the computer (either quick start or by doing it manually in the browser), and it'll ask for my connection settings again, but doesn't have the option for PPPoA.

Why does the router need these settings if it's not even doing the connecting to Xnet? Shouldn't it just have the task of routing the traffic from the modem to the various devices?


Suggest you turn DHCP on in the modem, off on the WAP and check that it is on for the network card.

Couldn't get this to work either, could be doing it wrong. But I turned it off on the router, was already on the modem. There is a place on the modem where I can manually add items to a DHCP list, should I add the router ip and mac address here?
Warhog (7975)
722189 2008-11-23 07:05:00 Why don't you call the Belkin helpdesk 0800 235 546
That is what they are there for.

Next time buy a modem/router all in one and you won't have these sort of problems.
By buying 2 units it has cost you more and wasted a lot of your time.
For example you could have bought a Dynalink RTA1025W wireless modem/router for about $120 and you would be up and running in about 10 mins.
Safari (3993)
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