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| Thread ID: 75247 | 2006-12-21 20:20:00 | Christmas and the revolting PC brigade | kenj (9738) | PC World Chat |
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| 508621 | 2006-12-21 22:56:00 | What about the Rabbi who demanded that the airport in the USA erect Menorah decorations (please excuse my spelling as I'm not Jewish) because they had pagan Christmas trees. The airport responded by removing all Christmas decorations causing a huge outcry and I am sure the Rabbi was made to feel a twit. Anyway- Seasons Greetings to you all :thumbs: And don't dilly dally on the way to Diwali :D |
Shortcircuit (1666) | ||
| 508622 | 2006-12-21 23:00:00 | It's really got nothing to do with Jesus or Santa and his cohorts or nativity scenes etc.etc. It is the fact that we are pandering to other religions and faiths so as not to offend them. Are christians offended by Islam/Bhuddist/Jewish etc. ceremonies and icons? No we are not. Do we tell our Chinese citizens not to have their parades that celebrate their New year in case they might offend someone of a different faith? Jewish with their beliefs? Islam with theirs? And on and on.... For 'your' God's sake, let's get a bit of sanity back in this crazy world. Rant... Rant... Rant Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 508623 | 2006-12-21 23:07:00 | Heh, religion and sanity in the same breath, LMFAO. Anyhow, The world has never been sane, Mankind is madness.Always has been, always will be. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 508624 | 2006-12-21 23:08:00 | Merry Giftmas everyone...LOL | SolMiester (139) | ||
| 508625 | 2006-12-21 23:08:00 | In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25 . Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast . In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ . The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture . In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death . This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun . The festival season was marked by much merrymaking . It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born . The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors . From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born . The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule . Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year . Huge Yule logs were burned in honor of the sun . The word Yule itself means “wheel,” the wheel being a pagan symbol for the sun . Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual . Hollyberries were thought to be a food of the gods . Live evergreen trees were often brought into homes during the harsh winters as a reminder to inhabitants that soon their crops would grow again . The Druids used the tree as a religious symbol, holding their sacred ceremonies while surrounding and worshipping huge trees . The earliest record of an evergreen being decorated in a Christian celebration was in 1521 in the Alsace region of Germany . In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25 . The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them . Christmas (Christ-Mass) as we know it today, most historians agree, began in Germany, though Catholics and Lutherans still disagree about which church celebrated it first . So take away all the silly religious superstitions and we are left with something similar to the Babylonian celebration . Sounds good to me . |
pctek (84) | ||
| 508626 | 2006-12-21 23:15:00 | In ancient Babylon, the feast of the Son of Isis (Goddess of Nature) was celebrated on December 25 . Raucous partying, gluttonous eating and drinking, and gift-giving were traditions of this feast . In Rome, the Winter Solstice was celebrated many years before the birth of Christ . The Romans called their winter holiday Saturnalia, honoring Saturn, the God of Agriculture . In January, they observed the Kalends of January, which represented the triumph of life over death . This whole season was called Dies Natalis Invicti Solis, the Birthday of the Unconquered Sun . The festival season was marked by much merrymaking . It is in ancient Rome that the tradition of the Mummers was born . The Mummers were groups of costumed singers and dancers who traveled from house to house entertaining their neighbors . From this, the Christmas tradition of caroling was born . The pagans of northern Europe celebrated the their own winter solstice, known as Yule . Yule was symbolic of the pagan Sun God, Mithras, being born, and was observed on the shortest day of the year . Huge Yule logs were burned in honor of the sun . The word Yule itself means “wheel,” the wheel being a pagan symbol for the sun . Mistletoe was considered a sacred plant, and the custom of kissing under the mistletoe began as a fertility ritual . Hollyberries were thought to be a food of the gods . Live evergreen trees were often brought into homes during the harsh winters as a reminder to inhabitants that soon their crops would grow again . The Druids used the tree as a religious symbol, holding their sacred ceremonies while surrounding and worshipping huge trees . The earliest record of an evergreen being decorated in a Christian celebration was in 1521 in the Alsace region of Germany . In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ’s birth would be celebrated on December 25 . The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that their feasts would not be taken away from them . Christmas (Christ-Mass) as we know it today, most historians agree, began in Germany, though Catholics and Lutherans still disagree about which church celebrated it first . So take away all the silly religious superstitions and we are left with something similar to the Babylonian celebration . Sounds good to me . Well done pctek, that is exactly right . It was the Catholics' way to bring the pagan faithful into their own religion . . . . |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 508627 | 2006-12-21 23:16:00 | Merry Giftmas everyone...LOLThats what it is all about, gifts on mass and being happy about it. Merry Giftmas :rolleyes: |
Rob99 (151) | ||
| 508628 | 2006-12-22 00:00:00 | Just got sent this :p : The Christmas Wish (PC Version) I wanted to send some sort of holiday greeting to my friends, but it is so difficult in today's world to know exactly what to say without offending someone. So I met with my solicitor yesterday, and on his advice I wish to say the following: Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, nonaddictive, gender neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced with the most enjoyable traditions of religious persuasion or secular practices of your choice with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2007, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make our country great (not to imply that New Zealand is necessarily greater than any other country) and without regard to the race, creed, colour, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishee. By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms: This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others and is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher. Disclaimer: No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. |
Jen (38) | ||
| 508629 | 2006-12-22 00:23:00 | Heh, religion and sanity in the same breath, LMFAO. :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: |
Biggles (121) | ||
| 508630 | 2006-12-22 06:51:00 | Just got sent this :p : The Christmas Wish (PC Version) I wanted to send some sort of holiday greeting to my friends, but it is so difficult in today's world to know exactly what to say without offending someone. So I met with my solicitor yesterday, and on his advice I wish to say the following: Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, nonaddictive, gender neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced with the most enjoyable traditions of religious persuasion or secular practices of your choice with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2007, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make our country great (not to imply that New Zealand is necessarily greater than any other country) and without regard to the race, creed, colour, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishee. By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms: This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others and is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher. Disclaimer: No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced. The highlighted phrase could be considered geographically discrimminatory in that it presupposes all readers to be of the same lattitudinal location notwithtstanding that readers may be either hemispherically opposed, or seasonally neutral if located on an equatorial position. Assigning a numerical value to a "year's end" implies that you are obliging others to accept your narrow value of calendars, or even the existence of any system of quantifying time. This is not acceptable. The anti-discrimination squad (Blue section) have been advised and will be contacting you in due course. |
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