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| Thread ID: 75195 | 2006-12-19 20:08:00 | NZ Copyright Law = No Multi Zone DVD Players? | DRHILL (3490) | PC World Chat |
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| 508072 | 2006-12-20 02:39:00 | A touch of commensense and contact with reality there, Bruce? But when did commonsense and reality start to have have anything to do with the law? True, but I very much doubt whether enforcing this in the way suggested will sit comfortably with the political agenda of a gov that made parallel importing A-OK, nor will it sit with the agenda of National. Any free-market leaning politician will shoot this down in flames, given time and enough prodding with a stick. |
Biggles (121) | ||
| 508073 | 2006-12-20 04:03:00 | True, but I very much doubt whether enforcing this in the way suggested will sit comfortably with the political agenda of a gov that made parallel importing A-OK, nor will it sit with the agenda of National. Any free-market leaning politician will shoot this down in flames, given time and enough prodding with a stick. A law without enforcement is a law without teeth. To enforce the law you need to have enough staff. It appears to me that we don't have enough staff in New Zealand to enforce the laws we have now. The only law enforcement agency we have here is (NZ Police) unless you count SIS. I may add that the staff you employ need to be accepted and trained to not only know the law but to ENFORCE. They do not need to be lawyers but have to have a good understanding of Acts and Statutes and Regulations. I don't want a police state. Possibly we should have a coalition of ALL parties to govern. Pick the best ideas from all. One thing that I have noticed is that very vocal minorities seem to get heard and various laws get put in place because of this. Fair enough that the minority gets heard but I would think that THE GOVERNMENT (whomever this is) has to listen more to the majority. There again you have to vote, otherwise we get the Government we deserve. I have more to say and must admit I have not thought it right through. I want to please some people all of the time, all people some of the time and I can't please all people all of the time. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 508074 | 2006-12-20 06:03:00 | When did politicians and commonsense stand side by side?? Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 508075 | 2006-12-20 06:10:00 | lol. You can enforce NZ but international law? I heard India was no protected from compyright law, from waffer design on memory chip or something. |
PedalSlammer (8511) | ||
| 508076 | 2006-12-20 06:31:00 | A law without enforcement is a law without teeth. To enforce the law you need to have enough staff. It appears to me that we don't have enough staff in New Zealand to enforce the laws we have now. ... But if they make the fine big enough, it wouldn't make sense not to enforce the law! Hmm lets see....police officers wages x2, court costs, judges salary, jurors salary.... Better make this fine a hefty one, how does $40,000 per offense sound? Oh and best only prosecute people that will actually have that sort of money lying around. This could be a nice little money making venture for the govt. :lol: |
pine-o-cleen (2955) | ||
| 508077 | 2006-12-20 06:41:00 | Few years back I bought a cheapo $130 dvd player and it didn't even have macrovision on it ... that's what they should worry about about copyright, not region code. | SKT174 (1319) | ||
| 508078 | 2006-12-20 12:15:00 | A touch of common sense and contact with reality there, Bruce? But when did commonsense and reality start to have have anything to do with the law? With a load of common sense like that I must come down to ChCh and enjoy the great Indian restaurant you have there. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 508079 | 2006-12-20 12:20:00 | True, but I very much doubt whether enforcing this in the way suggested will sit comfortably with the political agenda of a gov that made parallel importing A-OK, nor will it sit with the agenda of National. Any free-market leaning politician will shoot this down in flames, given time and enough prodding with a stick. Depends wether Ruthless Ruth is helping wield the stick. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 508080 | 2006-12-20 12:33:00 | But if they make the fine big enough, it wouldn't make sense not to enforce the law! Hmm lets see....police officers wages x2, court costs, judges salary, jurors salary.... Better make this fine a hefty one, how does $40,000 per offense sound? Oh and best only prosecute people that will actually have that sort of money lying around. This could be a nice little money making venture for the govt. :lol: Leave the Judges salaries out of this. They are now allowed to claim for travel they have not incurred and they are quite happy to remain in the judiciary which made a joke of the govt and the Law |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 508081 | 2006-12-24 02:38:00 | I totally agree . Thanks for making those points - they need to be made repeatedly to combat the ridiculous restrictive practices that are coming to be regarded as "normal" . Consumers have no obligation to protect or respect vendors' or manufacturers' revenues . Region zoning does not protect copyright . It protects the studios' ability to distribute titles when and where they see fit . As such it is more an issue of protecting local distributors income and hence has parallel import implications much more than it does piracy implications . Any claims by the studios that eliminating region-free players potects their copyright is spurious and would be seen as such . Parellel importing, both for individuals and businesses is allowed here . If the technology being used enables the content to be copied - that's one thing . But region-free players merely allow users to play legimate, paid for content -- and the money goes back to the copyright holder -- and so that technology is not being used to breach copyright in any way . |
Jayess64 (8703) | ||
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