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Thread ID: 143511	2017-01-30 05:42:00	"The Women Of '69 - Unboxed"	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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1431377	2017-01-30 05:42:00	I'm watching a TV show called (above ^ ) and I heard a statement that I am not sure really is the truth . Their statement is that in 1969, it marked and was a 'pivotal year and this was the great groundswell that brought about tremendous social changes and powers to women' . (unquote) . I can see their point, but I don't believe it was The Class of 1969 (footnote) - I, rather, believe it was the Class of '64 that started breaking new ground and wrought the new re-invention of what they say are "better women who could now travel and dream of being out of the 'box'", as it were . I know about the music having made a quantum leap in 1962-64 and that with the Surf and Rock-n-Roll attitude and the previous generation's 'Burn The Bra' liberationists attacking the boundaries and society's stigma of a woman's place, et al . , because I was there although certain aspects of it are missing from my video tapes . We - the Class of '64 - were the "Spock Babies" and not the Cdr Spock on Star Trek either . Permissive-ism was our catchphrase, although most of us just enjoyed the lack of discipline, not wondering what or who caused it - we just did it . I also believe that I remember that free sex, LSD, tie-dyes, grannie glasses, hippies (the post-Kerouac generation) the draft, burning draft cards, civil disobedience, and a lot of other anti-social/-norm activities were rampant . There was the LSD King, Timothy Leary and the "Turn on, Tune in, Drop out" generation too . I think I have that quoted correctly - but I'm SURE someone will correct me if I don't . 1964 was the time when girls in school didn't want to take the (then) mandatory Home Economics and Sewing Class 1A, and there was a general "That Girl" attitude happening now with more and more regularity . "The PILL" had liberated a while bunch of receptive girls - and guys - who could have everything they wanted, but not a job . "Re-nesters' hadn't happened yet, at least not coined by that name for those kids who finished their: a . college education, b . returned from VietNam, c . had been fried from their previous intake of recreational pharmaceuticals and had trouble with bushes that moved and rainbow colors that wouldn't fade away . d . forgot to take their PILL and came back babe-in-arms and no daddy . Anyway - this is the question I put to Upsidedown land: How do YOU remember the 1964-1969 time period? footnote: in the US, most generational markings are made from the year of their high school graduation, or 12th year of school .	SurferJoe46 (51)
1431378	2017-01-30 08:23:00	I don't remember it very well as I was only 2 in 69	gary67 (56)
1431379	2017-01-30 09:09:00	Yes Joe, I remember the 60s very well. I was 17 when I left high school in 1964.... then my life began! Between '64 and '69 I spent my time working at various jobs, hitch hiking around NZ. It was the era of the Beatles, Rolling Stones, the Byrds, Donovan, all the American Bands too, the Beach Boys and free love which never turned out to be free after all, there was always a price to pay! Vietnam War of course. I took part in a march against sending our troops there, also in a march against nuclear arms. Very tumultuous times they were then, but also very exciting times for a free person of the new world order. The space race, amazing developments in my lifetime. I consider myself lucky to have lived through and have survived those years relatively unscathed. Those heady days took a slower more conservative turn at the end of 69 when marriage and children came along. Thinking back, I wouldn't change one part of it at all! LL. :)	lakewoodlady (103)
1431380	2017-01-30 18:24:00	Yes Joe, I was 15 in 1964 and can remember quite well the sound of the 'drop' drumming on "Ticket To Ride" which for me/and many of my generation, heralded a new era which was eventually shattered by the incoherent punks (lower case deliberate) about 1976. www.youtube.com Chords are onscreen so you can play it Joe and remember the good times. Here's a bonus track: www.youtube.com Another: www.youtube.com	zqwerty (97)
1431381	2017-01-30 23:04:00	The trouble with people trying to categorise things and put boundaries on them is that it's entirely artificial. In reality most change like time itself is an ongoing continuous process. It often has no clearly defined start and end and even when it does appear to you can often find earlier events that could be tied to it. It something that bugs me a little that there's this constant need to define boundaries on things even when they don't apply. We talk about the 60's or 70's or 80's etc as if there's actually a transition when the calendar ticks over to a round number, there isn't. Growing up in the 70s & 80s (born in '68) I was surrounded by 60's and 70's influences, they don't just go away. A lot of my clothes were hand me downs from my older brother and a decade out of date, but they really didn't look it (mostly, I did not wear his old flares). Most of the cars on the road and appliances in our house were from previous decades as well.	dugimodo (138)
1431382	2017-01-31 02:01:00	" How do YOU remember the 1964-1969 time period? " I remember sometimes walking to & from primary school, 2 miles? , without being accompanied by a adult . Racing Ice block sticks in the drains on the way there. no ques of cars at the school gate with kids being dropped off the moon landing mass german measles vaccinations at our primary school , people spoke of polio : many new someone who once had it Marbles being a FAD that came & quickly went, as did yoyo's ; the things we did before Ipads weird (great) TV programs, that I usually werent allowed to watch (on too late) I remember once seeing the TV program The Prisoner , and thinking, what is going on with this !!! the hero being chased by that huge balloon . Very strange things that adults watch on TV TV repair man coming & pulling the back off the TV, could never see what he was up to. Cassette tapes getting tangled up, often. 4 wine gums for 1c , fritter & chips 10c . Bottle of coke was a real treat, maybee once a month . We drank water . Didnt KFC arrive here around 69??	1101 (13337)
1431383	2017-01-31 02:21:00	I think there's a real time point when we become cognizant of the world around us, and not just when we graduate from our crib into crawling on the floor . It's not uncommon to compartmentalize the passage of time since we're all subject to those events marked by marriage, birth of a child, first gunfight, new car, first yacht, near death experience, alien abductions . . . . you know : all the common things . Eg: where we're you when Kennedy was assassinated or the first moonwalk? See? We all mark time or why would we have clocks, calandars, wedding anniversaries or milk expiration dates?	SurferJoe46 (51)
1431384	2017-01-31 03:31:00	It all passed me by, too busy with work, marriage, children, house maintenance, rebuilding a Vincent, listening to Bix Beiderbecke and Louis Armstrong, had much more important things to do than turning on and tuning out :clap I do remember in 1964, a few days after a TV episode of The Plane Makers, in the same week, wherein one of their test pilots nearly got fried over the Libyan desert because the cold air unit's bearings siezed up, exactly same thing happened in real life in Libya to a Hawker Hunter, or was it a Lightning? It was the topic of conversation in the lubrication and bearings lab at work at English Electric. Also during that time, it wasn't possible to escape noticing all the young chicks in mini skirts, and how ridiculous the grossly overweight ones looked with skirts up to their bums. :eek: :wub I also remember my ten years younger sister raving on about insects, moths, or beatles or something, never did find out what she was on about. :banana :devil	Terry Porritt (14)
1431385	2017-01-31 07:38:00	Don't forget Woodstock music festival Joe. They catered for 40,000, 400,000 turned up.	BobM (1138)
1431386	2017-01-31 10:50:00	I like quite a lot of the current generations music, for example: www.youtube.com I really like this video as well as the song, very well done. l also like Glen Miller and the big band sound in general, classic musicals like South Pacific, Oklahoma etc, also quite a bit of true Classical music. It's just the punks I find particularly irksome because they denigrated all the great music that had come before.	zqwerty (97)
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