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Thread ID: 75386	2006-12-27 06:37:00	Is there really anything so bad about apple?	Dannz (1668)	PC World Chat

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510064	2006-12-27 06:37:00	Hi All, I saving to buy this: www.dse.co.nz And everyone is telling me that i should get something else, maybe even a no-name brand 80gb some thing, that has a 1 month warranty etc etc Am i making a mistake? i don't think i am, I don't want to spend this amount of money, and buy some no-name that will die, i'd rather spend money on a decent player. Cheers	Dannz (1668)
510065	2006-12-27 06:46:00	You can't go wrong buying any Apple product. The design, functionality and reliability oftens amazes users of other products when they finally get around to trying for themselves. There are many Apple Mac members on this forum who will confirm this and even Billy T a one time Windows fanatic now uses iTunes.	Safari (3993)
510066	2006-12-27 07:15:00	the ipod is actually a pretty good piece of kit, I previously owned an Iriver H340 as my mp3 player of choice however now owning a 30gb video ipod identical to the one in your link I can see that in all areas other than sound quality and ease of putting music on, it has the iriver beat. Itunes is the one major fly in the ointment for ipods as it is really not a suitable application for general everyday use due to its unbearable interface, horribly slow load times and refusal to adhere to audio settings. However it can be mostly avoided if you just use it to copy the music over to your ipod then banish it from your system until some new piece of music takes your fancy.	lagbort (5041)
510067	2006-12-27 07:16:00	You can't go wrong buying any Apple product. The design, functionality and reliability oftens amazes users of other products when they finally get around to trying for themselves. You know that's bad reasoning. You know you're wrong. Evidence shows you're wrong. Evidence suggests the total opposite of what you suggest. Give a thought to those that don't give a stuff for Apple products. Maybe they know better? Maybe they like the alternative? Maybe they want a mainstream product that works without being inculcated by a massive learning curve and one that gives a huge amount of support without selling their soul to a minority product. Perhaps even, people want a usable interface without having a bizzare colour scheme nor weird looking and user-unfriendly interfaces and hardware. Hmm.	Greg (193)
510068	2006-12-27 07:17:00	You need to be careful when you take opinions on this. Most people who have an opinion on Apple products are at one extreme or the other and brand loyalty seems to overrule facts. For what it's worth, I've used various Apple products over many years and the only problem that I've ever had was a blown logic board in a G3 iBook. I think that's a good run. There are a few iPod horror stories out there but when you consider how many of those things have been sold, you can imagine that the ones with problems are a very small proportion. It's also important to remember that the hard drive based models do not cope well with mistreatment, and a lot of users don't seem to understand this.	alasta (6652)
510069	2006-12-27 07:19:00	Hi All, I saving to buy this: www.dse.co.nz And everyone is telling me that i should get something else, maybe even a no-name brand 80gb some thing, that has a 1 month warranty etc etc Am i making a mistake? i don't think i am, I don't want to spend this amount of money, and buy some no-name that will die, i'd rather spend money on a decent player. CheersWait till it needs to be repaired under warranty. Or better yet, when it is NOT under warranty. Not only that, but it is a 'hot' item to thieves. Leave it for five minutes and do not expect to see it ever again.	bob_doe_nz (92)
510070	2006-12-27 07:22:00	Itunes is the one major fly in the ointment for ipods as it is really not a suitable application for general everyday use due to its unbearable interface, horribly slow load times and refusal to adhere to audio settings. However it can be mostly avoided if you just use it to copy the music over to your ipod then banish it from your system until some new piece of music takes your fancy. I've actually been very impressed with the user interface of iTunes, and find it to be much more intuitive and reliable than Windows Media Player. Your signature suggests that you're a PC user, so perhaps being an experienced Mac user gives me a different perspective. And for anyone who's tempted to have a go at me, I'm not suggesting that either product is better than the other but I do know what I like personally.	alasta (6652)
510071	2006-12-27 07:36:00	I thought this might be a post about the fruit...apples..well...I did! What's worse than biting into an apple and finding a worm? Biting into an apple and finding 1/2 a worm. That's about the only joke concerning apples I have.	SurferJoe46 (51)
510072	2006-12-27 07:37:00	I have a creative zen vision:m. I have the 30GB model but they have just released it in 60GB for the same price. In my opinion both are good pieces of kit but I chose the Creative because in my opinion it has a better sound quality. Also I didn't want to be tied to iTunes (yep Speedy - I know you can use Winamp). For me the device is used for music therefore the sound quality is paramount and in my opinion the Creative is better in that area. Did I stress my opinion enough in there? :D	Tukapa (62)
510073	2006-12-27 07:39:00	I've actually been very impressed with the user interface of iTunes, and find it to be much more intuitive and reliable than Windows Media Player. Your signature suggests that you're a PC user, so perhaps being an experienced Mac user gives me a different perspective. it isnt windows media player I am comparing to (whose interface for anything other than movies is horrible) but rather dedicated music programs such as winamp. although i suppose I could be soured by the latest release of itunes which takes over 1 minute to start on my system and then refuses to play through anything more than the front speakers of my 5.1 arrangement, no matter how much prodding it is given.	lagbort (5041)
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