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Thread ID: 75407	2006-12-28 02:07:00	The cost of Vista	pine-o-cleen (2955)	PC World Chat

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510369	2007-01-04 02:03:00	Is it true what I'm hearing that the 64bit version is more secure then the 32bit version, I take it most virues and spyware are 32bit? or am I not thinking correctly I think at this stage most of the viruses are for 32bit bit don't let that lull you into a false sense of security ;)	winmacguy (3367)
510370	2007-01-04 06:27:00	Is it true what I'm hearing that the 64bit version is more secure then the 32bit version, I take it most virues and spyware are 32bit? or am I not thinking correctly The 32bit emulation will work just as well for spyware as for legit applications.	Greven (91)
510371	2007-01-04 08:18:00	Here we are with another O/S war I think. Or it might be honest debate. Not sure which yet. Whilst this is the ChatForum people will be searching for answers. Correct answers I believe. I started computing with a Burroughs B3500, MCP, punched paper tape, punched cards, tape drives and slightly later came random access disk drives which were around the size of my present washing machine. We used the 132 line printer to print off ASCII drawings. They were fun at the time. The difference between the tape and disk was tape being a sequential search and we then were wised up to access keys on random access in COBOL. We used HASH keys. If you think about it, with databases, two different names could generate the same key. It was possible. In those days we used to rent time on the computer and I travelled from one place to another to whack my punched cards through and check for syntax errors. You did not want to drop a deck of cards on the ground. When I first looked at personal computers there was a TRS80, Commodore Vic20, PET and others. I could not afford any of them. I elected eventually to get a SEGA SC3000 with a 75/300 modem whith which I could access FidoNet. This came with Basic and I could write programs again. WOW! Later I sold the Sega and went IBM compatible. An Amstrad PC20 and I thought what is an Autoexec.bat and Config.sys file. I took the time to learn. I read computer magazines and had GWBASIC and kept on learning. Now back to present day. I would suggest that you pick what applications you have to use then pick the O/S you need to run the application. Having figured that then go spend money or not. Don't forget your hardware and drivers. You might think about your current investment in hardware and software. You might think about a learning curve. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. You might consider being productive. If you are a really serious gamer then you might want DX10 etc or not as the case may be. It may be better to get a decent car so you can get to work and earn the money to buy what interests YOU.	Sweep (90)
510372	2007-01-04 08:59:00	OK sweep I'm not sure if you were asking a question there or not but if this last couple of sentences sum up your post "You might think about your current investment in hardware and software. You might think about a learning curve. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. You might consider being productive. If you are a really serious gamer then you might want DX10 etc or not as the case may be. It may be better to get a decent car so you can get to work and earn the money to buy what interests YOU. Reply With Quote" Then here is my best informed and answer that I can give regarding ALL suitable computing platforms available for the consumer: If hardcore gaming is essential to your computing then stick with XP. For all other computing needs the bulk of ALL general purpose software (MS Office, Creative design and DV software) is available for PC and Mac and most of it as cross platform with a few exceptions such as Apple DV software VS Adobe DV software. For specific business and enterprise applications -XP only General office stuff (Excell, Word, Powerpoint etc) are PC and Mac friendly as well as free office stuff. Price wise for hardware; If you can build/outfit or customize a PC yourself then you will be able to build it cheaper than a Mac and stay with XP. If like the rest of us you prefer to buy one from a shop then only the budget end of the PC market (sub $1500) will beat a desktop Mac. For the mid range to upper end of the market $1600-$3000 Mac and PC prices are comparable. For the top or professional (Design, Engineering, Architect, Digital Video) end of the market $3500+ get an Intel Mac or a grunty box and put Linux on it although 16GB of RAM on a Quad Core Intel Mac 3.0 Ghz will kick any butte out there as long as you can afford the RAM (not me!) In terms of home or office network connectivity with XP and Mac and Linux is pretty straight forward. For security and hassel free computing get either Mac or Linux and if you don't believe me try one sometime. As for Vista- wait till the end of the year if your really desperate. With regards to a "learning curve" open your mind and have a go www.lifehacker.com That is about as even and open and unbiased as I can get.	winmacguy (3367)
510373	2007-01-07 02:15:00	DX10 is solely for Vista. Now what happens when a majority of games require DX10? You might have less choice in the matter than you think, if you're a gamer. EDIT: Just a note that I'm personally going to hold out "upgrading" to vista as long as I can. Im not sure if someone lese has said this, and im not looking through all the posts :P but... WRONG!!!!. apparently their will be a new version of DirectX made for XP, that will effectivly be v10, but still keeping the V9 so people can take advantage of their 8000 series cards whilst still using XP.	Jams (1051)
510374	2007-01-07 02:20:00	MAC is an acronym for Media Audio Controller. Mac is commonly short for Macintosh Computer. MAC also stands for: Mandatory Access Control Macro (File Name Extension) MAC Macau (ISO Country code) MAC Macaroni Mac Macedonian (linguistics) MAC Multiple Access MAC Medium Access Control MAC Mid-American Conference MAC Message Authentication Code MAC MacPaint (File Name Extension) MAC Mark McGwire (baseball player) MAC Mainland Affairs Council (Taiwan) MAC Minimum Alveolar Concentration (measure of potency for anesthetics) And about 11 more pages of various aother Acronyms. What are you trying to say smartass ?	Jams (1051)
510375	2007-01-07 02:31:00	Im not sure if someone lese has said this, and im not looking through all the posts :P but . . . WRONG!!!! . apparently their will be a new version of DirectX made for XP, that will effectivly be v10, but still keeping the V9 so people can take advantage of their 8000 series cards whilst still using XP . . com/archive/2006/10/17/DirectX-10-for-Windows-XP_3F00_--Repeat-after-me_3A00_-No . -No . -No_2E00_ . aspx" target="_blank">letskilldave . com Gaming = Vista . Not gaming - whatever O/S you like . Repeat: Gaming = Vista . - DirectX 9 . 0L was the early name designation for what is now called "DirectX 9 . 0Ex" . - DirectX 9 . 0Ex is a Windows Vista only feature . In a nutshell, it is DirectX 9 . 0c, with some modifications to work smoothly with the new driver characteristics of Windows Vista, which is significantly different at the graphics level than Windows XP . DX10 can ONLY run in Vista . It CANNOT run in XP .	pctek (84)
510376	2007-01-07 02:35:00	. com/archive/2006/10/17/DirectX-10-for-Windows-XP_3F00_--Repeat-after-me_3A00_-No . -No . -No_2E00_ . aspx" target="_blank">letskilldave . com Gaming = Vista . Not gaming - whatever O/S you like . Repeat: Gaming = Vista . - DirectX 9 . 0L was the early name designation for what is now called "DirectX 9 . 0Ex" . - DirectX 9 . 0Ex is a Windows Vista only feature . In a nutshell, it is DirectX 9 . 0c, with some modifications to work smoothly with the new driver characteristics of Windows Vista, which is significantly different at the graphics level than Windows XP . DX10 can ONLY run in Vista . It CANNOT run in XP . True . last i had read it was going to be DirectX 9 . 0L . looks like MS went back on their word . not uncommon :P	Jams (1051)
510377	2007-01-07 05:20:00	This link might be a worth while read to answer the question of the original post of this forum www.informationweek.com	winmacguy (3367)
510378	2007-01-07 06:06:00	Here is another review from Paul Thurrott's Windows super site www.winsupersite.com	winmacguy (3367)
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