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Thread ID: 75337 2006-12-25 05:32:00 is this a de facto relationship? Ninjabear (2948) PC World Chat
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509487 2006-12-28 02:06:00 Seems to be you are not wanting to hear what you are being told. Having separate finances means nothing. You are viewing this relationship like a flatting situation, same house, share common expenses but personal finances are left to the individual. The difference is you are in a relationship - this means it is a de facto relationship. The sooner you come around to this then the easier it will be on you when you are told by WINZ. Intention of marriage again has nothing to do with it.

BTW you arent studying accounting per chance - my mate sounds just like you. Has his own version of the truth when it comes to money until it bites him on the bum.
sam m (517)
509488 2006-12-28 03:37:00 I've just been to study link and changed to de facto relationship. Ninjabear (2948)
509489 2006-12-28 03:45:00 Good move. R2x1 (4628)
509490 2006-12-28 03:52:00 So far this thread seems concentrated on opinions relating to whether or not Nomad's girlfriend may wish/be entitled to claim some of his possessions at some time in the future.

That's hardly the point.
Winz couldn't give a stuff about that - and shouldn't.
Winz's job is to sort out what you're each entitled to be paid now.
And to decide that fairly - so that people who're sharing accomodation & basic bills don't come out better off than single people.
(Ask your nearest superannuitant. It's the same rule for a 70 year-old grandparent as for a student in that. Married couples don't get as much as twice the single rate)


It seems to me that your girlfriend has given the honest answer in your circumstances.
Your relationship is certainly a de facto marriage in terms of living costs - and it's living costs that count here, after all.
And the taxpayers whose money you're receiving, are entitled to hope Winz is making it go as far as possible.

(Why no holiday jobs?
Students weren't eligible for Unemployment Benefit in my day.
You worked or starved or sponged off your parents - no other choices.)


Edit:
I see time has overtaken me & I'm a few posts late.
Forget I spoke...
Laura (43)
509491 2006-12-28 04:27:00 Edit:
I see time has overtaken me & I'm a few posts late.
Forget I spoke...

No, you have given some very wise advice there Laura, as usual. I am sure Ninjabear won't be sorry with his decision to do the right thing now. :)
FoxyMX (5)
509492 2007-01-21 02:47:00 When they find out, if you haven't declared the fact, that could REALLY stuff you up. "They" are not very amused by undeclared status changes.

They've already stuffed me up now.

They've combine our income.I'm not receiving anything income but because is earning over the limit I don't get any payment

I'm unable to find any jobs.I managed to save a bit up

My girlfriend is really upset about this as we were told before applying that it won't affect my payment

She'll be moving back home and if that won't help she'll be going to city bureau
Ninjabear (2948)
509493 2007-01-21 02:50:00 I regret applying for de facto.

hmmm
Ninjabear (2948)
509494 2007-01-21 02:59:00 Ninjabear, a relationship such as yours
... living with your girlfriend.Single room.Same bed. is called a de facto marriage, regardless of financial arrangements. If you had a marriage certificate that would be de jure.
Graham L (2)
509495 2007-01-21 04:16:00 So far this thread seems concentrated on opinions relating to whether or not Nomad's girlfriend may wish/be entitled to claim some of his possessions at some time in the future.



What has this to do with me, I have not yet spoken on this thread :eek:

For Ninjabear. I guess the "good way" would of been telling you your girlfriend's income will affect you and maybe they could of checked the amount and they could of told you then on the phone. But don't tell me you are going to say you are single just to defraud WINZ :annoyed:

But you can AFAIK have a partner and are not married but living at different addresses.

At the end of the day you will still not get it (applied or not applied).
Nomad (952)
509496 2007-01-21 05:29:00 She'll be moving back home so that wouldn't be a de facto anymore? Ninjabear (2948)
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