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Thread ID: 75386 2006-12-27 06:37:00 Is there really anything so bad about apple? Dannz (1668) PC World Chat
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510084 2006-12-27 09:40:00 Is anyone here subscribe to consumer, they usually have reliabilty tests and so
you could always start a poll from actuall users of the different machines, not just a I hate ipod because I don't own one or anyone for that matter
plod (107)
510085 2006-12-27 09:50:00 The PSP is too big for me. I like a small MP3 player that still has a large enough display to show the information I want.

I have a Creative Rhomba NX 512mb, which would be really good if it allowed you to use sub-folders.
Greven (91)
510086 2006-12-27 09:51:00 With the ipod the only way without hacks is to get music on via the hellish program that is itunes.

With the vision:m, you can use standard explorer, the supplied creative software or any other program really that allows you to sync with a portable device (WMP10/11, Winamp,Media Monkey).

Audio Codecs of Vision:M - MP3, WMA (inc MS PD DRM), WAV
Video Codecs - DivX™ 4 & 55, XviD5, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG4-SP, WMV9, Motion-JPEG (YAY OMG DIVX, IPOD cant touch that with there crapping codec).

Other advantages of the vision:M

Fm Radio + Recording
Better screen, 262k colours as opposed to 65k colours
Custom EQ
Better video battery life
60gig model has Otg usb host

I have one, and im very pleased with it, sorry if i sound like a crazed creative fan boy but its way better imo.
noone (22)
510087 2006-12-27 09:57:00 en.wikipedia.org Cornot (10386)
510088 2006-12-27 09:59:00 www.anythingbutipod.com

Ignore the name bias, it raises both the advantages and disadvantages of both players
noone (22)
510089 2006-12-27 10:12:00 Yeah i would love a Zen, but id have to find an extra $100 on top of what i am saving.. i guess it would be worth it though.

Thing is.. i like iTunes :P
i have it setup to scan my music dir and update the library every 30 mins. i love it :p

EDIT: oh and i should have mentioned, i dont care in the slightest if it can play video, i just want a nice big, MUSIC player, nothing else. If i can watch the occasional TV episode, thats a bonus, but i prefer a pc screen anyway.
Dannz (1668)
510090 2006-12-27 17:25:00 Yeah i would love a Zen, but id have to find an extra $100 on top of what i am saving.. i guess it would be worth it though.
Look at some comparisons (www.google.co.nz).
Greg (193)
510091 2006-12-27 19:18:00 Yeah i would love a Zen, but id have to find an extra $100 on top of what i am saving.. i guess it would be worth it though.

Thing is.. i like iTunes :P
i have it setup to scan my music dir and update the library every 30 mins. i love it :p

EDIT: oh and i should have mentioned, i dont care in the slightest if it can play video, i just want a nice big, MUSIC player, nothing else. If i can watch the occasional TV episode, thats a bonus, but i prefer a pc screen anyway.
go and play with them, hold them, see what you like the best, listen to them. will you be using the supplied headphones or have you got some you already use, if so take them with you
plod (107)
510092 2006-12-27 20:01:00 $554 isnt bad

If you decide you want one just PM me. I have the 30GB and will probably look at flicking it off soon to upgrade to the 60Gb model.
Tukapa (62)
510093 2006-12-27 20:19:00 Reading through some of the comparisons, the Zen seems to be favoured for videos, and battery life for MP3's is about 5 hours less than the IPod.
All im looking for is a MP3 Player, so the IPod (at $100 cheaper) might be the way for me to go.
Dannz (1668)
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