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Thread ID: 75337 2006-12-25 05:32:00 is this a de facto relationship? Ninjabear (2948) PC World Chat
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509467 2006-12-25 23:20:00 If you are living with your girlfriend.Single room.Same bed.Rent and expensive are split in half but you each have individual bank account .You dont have a joint account.Would you state it as a de facto relationship?


Yes it is a defacto relationship. Having seperate bank accounts is irrevelent. I know plenty of married couples who have seperate bank accounts too.
The only consideration is the time together, before property is split 50/50 if you break up which isusually 3 years. Two words , put all your assets into a 'family trust'.
rogerp (6864)
509468 2006-12-26 00:00:00 Two words , put all your assets into a 'family trust'.That's not great advice. Firstly the costs of setting up and managing a trust may outvalue the assets. Secondly, the Family Court takes a dim view of persons setting up a trust to try and circumvent the legalities of a marriage, defacto or otherwise. Greg (193)
509469 2006-12-26 00:57:00 Two words . . . your ass . . .
3 more . . . in a sling :D
R2x1 (4628)
509470 2006-12-26 02:08:00 If you go to the Work and Income website, there is a brochure there called Relationships and Income Support.
www.workandincome.govt.nz

It says:
Are you in a relationship?
You’re in a relationship if you:

are married or
are in a civil union with someone of the same or opposite sex or
share your life with someone of the opposite sex in a way that is ‘like marriage’.

‘Like marriage’ is generally when you and your partner:

are committed to each other emotionally and
have a financial interdependence with each other.

To give you a better idea of what we mean by ‘like marriage’, ask yourself:

Do you live together at the same address most of the time?
Do you live separately but stay overnight at each other’s place a few nights a week?
Do you share responsibilities for bringing up children (if any)?
Do you socialise and holiday together?
Do you share money, bank accounts or credit cards?
Do you share household bills?
Do you have a sexual relationship?
Do people think of you as a couple?
Do you give each other emotional support and companionship?
Would your partner fi nancially support you if you couldn’t support yourself?

This is a guide only, so if you’re unsure about whether you’re in a relationship please give us a call.
John H (8)
509471 2006-12-26 02:12:00 We've been together for like 4 months only.hmm Ninjabear (2948)
509472 2006-12-26 04:20:00 If you go to the Work and Income website, there is a brochure there called Relationships and Income Support.
www.workandincome.govt.nz

It says:
Are you in a relationship?
You’re in a relationship if you:

are married or
are in a civil union with someone of the same or opposite sex or
share your life with someone of the opposite sex in a way that is ‘like marriage’.

‘Like marriage’ is generally when you and your partner:

are committed to each other emotionally and
have a financial interdependence with each other.

To give you a better idea of what we mean by ‘like marriage’, ask yourself:

Do you live together at the same address most of the time?
Do you live separately but stay overnight at each other’s place a few nights a week?
Do you share responsibilities for bringing up children (if any)?
Do you socialise and holiday together?
Do you share money, bank accounts or credit cards?
Do you share household bills?
Do you have a sexual relationship?
Do people think of you as a couple?
Do you give each other emotional support and companionship?
Would your partner fi nancially support you if you couldn’t support yourself?

This is a guide only, so if you’re unsure about whether you’re in a relationship please give us a call.
Thats almost how the wife describes my relationship with my best mate( apart from the sex and money:horrified )
plod (107)
509473 2006-12-26 05:03:00 We've been together for like 4 months only.hmm


So why panic this soon about future consequences?
You've loads of time yet to see if the relationship develops into something permanent enough to consider who gets what -

unless of course she's getting a benefit like the DPB, which you may stuff up for her?
Or either of you are claiming something like a Living Alone allowance?
Laura (43)
509474 2006-12-26 05:17:00 We are on Unemployment benefit and student allowance

I apply as single but she insisted of applying for de facto relationship

Which im afraid mite stuff me up.
Ninjabear (2948)
509475 2006-12-26 08:31:00 I have no knowledge whatsoever about student allowances requirements -
so no advice on that.

But I think I can safely say there's no way anyone can claim Unemployment Benefit for 2 people after 4 months living togeether.

(And neither should they by default, considering that the rest of us are paying for it through our taxes)

If either of you are entitled to an Unemployment Benefit, then apply for it separately & each will be considered on its merits...
Laura (43)
509476 2006-12-26 08:40:00 We are on Unemployment benefit and student allowance

I apply as single but she insisted of applying for de facto relationship

Which im afraid mite stuff me up.
When they find out, if you haven't declared the fact, that could REALLY stuff you up. "They" are not very amused by undeclared status changes.
R2x1 (4628)
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