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Thread ID: 75681	2007-01-07 05:35:00	Wo ist Herr Diesel?	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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513495	2007-01-07 05:35:00	In 1930 . . . . . one of the the first automobile trips in a vehicle with a diesel engine is completed from Indianapolis to New York City . That 1,300-mile trip was more than a stunt . . . . . . it helped demonstrate the usefulness of the diesel as a viable alternative to the Otto-cycle or internal combustion engine . Given all the stink these days about the need to find fuels other than distilled dinosaurs . . . . . . . . . it's worth noting that inventor Dr . Rudolf Diesel originally designed his engine to run on vegetable oil . When he so-called "apparently committed suicide" by jumping overboard on a crossing of the English Channel in 1913, at least one conspiracy theory surfaced suggesting that he was bumped off by nervous oil investors . Funny now in retrospect how what seemed laughable then sounds entirely plausible now . Interesting, too, that following Diesel's death, the engine was re-engineered to run using only petroleum-based fuel . I wonder if there were any turbans onboard?	SurferJoe46 (51)
513496	2007-01-07 05:57:00	I am anti torture,but if someone was found to have changed the course of history by conspiring to suppress an invention,then I would be in favour of skinning alive.	Cicero (40)
513497	2007-01-07 06:30:00	Given all the stink these days about the need to find fuels other than distilled dinosaurs . . . . . . . . . it's worth noting that inventor Dr . Rudolf Diesel originally designed his engine to run on vegetable oil . . . Most people do not realise the problems of "biofuel" production . Cane, rape, maize, potatoes etc, are extremely thirsty crops . In Australia, they figured out that to produce any sort of useable quantity of biofuel, they would have to divert whole rivers and and resume zillions of hectares and such . Only countries like Brazil can support such schemes because it has the environment to produce such quantities, and even then at an enormous environmental cost . That is why it is never going to happen in the rest of the world . The future is looking increasingly nuclear-electric . I wonder if there were any turbans onboard? Probably not . At the time they were too busy trying to stop the British/American/Ottomans/Fench/Germans from stealing their land and oil . Americans were some of the nastiest then, and so today . For a bit of history, look into the "Seven Sisters", Mossadiq and what was done to Iran and Iraq then and now . You will not be surprised at how pissed-off they are today . If you are a fan of conspiracy theories, watch Syriana and/or read the memoirs of Robert Baer .	vinref (6194)
513498	2007-01-08 07:18:00	............At the time they were too busy trying to stop the British/American/Ottomans/Fench/Germans from stealing their land and oil. Americans were some of the nastiest then, and so today. dem damn Fench is everyplace! :cool:	SurferJoe46 (51)
513499	2007-01-08 18:42:00	dem damn Fench is everyplace! :cool: And from Steyn........... Steyn notes that those parts of the world that have come under English influence have prospered politically, culturally and economically. There is a reason, he says, why it is easier to do business in Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong and India than in those parts of Asia ruled by the French or the Dutch. The former simply experienced English influence early on. The cultural traditions of the English - the rule of law, the emphasis on liberal values, the belief in the power of the person that he finds strongest in the United States - Steyn believes yet may save the West.	Cicero (40)
513500	2007-01-08 21:31:00	I am going to accept and also agree on the face value of that answer . . . to a point . Global capitolism isn't always the result of English speaking verse those who do not . Ideally, there should be no language barrier that either impedes or insures trade and ethics . What you have opined here, is all too obvious though . It seems that indeed, yes, the Olde English impact upon the world was something that brought with it a consistancy and heralded in values that have stood in tremendous stead for the unification of and even the education to the whole world . Even if the expansionist purpose of the English sailing forth into the undiscovered world was not just looking for something good to eat (there's a joke there) and that they had nobler and otherwise valid ramifications, the effect has been indeed good and uniting in outcome . Imparting values and ideals hand in hand with the colonization of a territory and includes the language, laws and social mores that in the long run has indeed been a good thing . I applaud your comment and shall Google your source (Steyn) and try to get a little more input and insight into what you said . Thanks for the reply . . . .	SurferJoe46 (51)
513501	2007-01-08 22:29:00	I am going to accept and also agree on the face value of that answer . . . to a point . Global capitolism isn't always the result of English speaking verse those who do not . Ideally, there should be no language barrier that either impedes or insures trade and ethics . What you have opined here, is all too obvious though . It seems that indeed, yes, the Olde English impact upon the world was something that brought with it a consistancy and heralded in values that have stood in tremendous stead for the unification of and even the education to the whole world . Even if the expansionist purpose of the English sailing forth into the undiscovered world was not just looking for something good to eat (there's a joke there) and that they had nobler and otherwise valid ramifications, the effect has been indeed good and uniting in outcome . Imparting values and ideals hand in hand with the colonization of a territory and includes the language, laws and social mores that in the long run has indeed been a good thing . I applaud your comment and shall Google your source (Steyn) and try to get a little more input and insight into what you said . Thanks for the reply . . . . Good to see you get the point,which is not easy for a yank,I know . That is Mark Steyn .	Cicero (40)
513502	2007-01-08 23:47:00	Actually, and because of a previous post about my non-participation in things political, I still have feelings about how the world spins . It is obvious that most of the movers and shakers in the world speak the tongue . . There are some pop-ups like Idi Amin and their ilk who speak English succinctly, yet are perverted to their causes not to mention normal social values and their own brand of secular humanism . Power corrupts: Absolute power absolutely corrupts . . . . and I am afraid that's the stream in which we find ourselves at the moment . I cannot defend, nor do I want to defend the US's attitude toward the world in general . . . . I can only apologize for it as I know it's odious and overbearing . I don't like being though of as an ugly American . Un-handsome person, perhaps is OK, but titling me as one thing or another because of birthplace is kinda not really who I am . Perhaps I'd be the same as I am if I were born in NZ or any other place where one does not get shot for opinions and non-political standings . I refuse to kiss that baby . Seems to me that nobody but you and I observe the pendulum effect in world matters and divisiveness . Looks to us like the pendulum has approached nadir about now; me a yank or not . BTW: Is "yank" a verb or noun as used here? (man . . . love this new Firefox . . . I finally got a decent speelchecker!) (OK! That's "spellchecker" . . it told me so!)	SurferJoe46 (51)
513503	2007-01-08 23:59:00	Actually, and because of a previous post about my non-participation in things political, I still have feelings about how the world spins . It is obvious that most of the movers and shakers in the world speak the tongue . . There are some pop-ups like Idi Amin and their ilk who speak English succinctly, yet are perverted to their causes not to mention normal social values and their own brand of secular humanism . Power corrupts: Absolute power absolutely corrupts . . . . and I am afraid that's the stream in which we find ourselves at the moment . I cannot defend, nor do I want to defend the US's attitude toward the world in general . . . . I can only apologise for it as I know it's odious and overbearing . I don't like being though of as an ugly American . Un-handsome person, perhaps is OK, but titling me as one thing or another because of birthplace is kinda not really who I am . Perhaps I'd be the same as I am if I were born in NZ or any other place where one does not get shot for opinions and non-political standings . I refuse to kiss that baby . Seems to me that nobody but you and I observe the pendulum effect in world matters and divisiveness . Looks to us like the pendulum has approached nadir about now; me a yank or not . BTW: Is "yank" a verb or noun as used here? (man . . . love this new Firefox . . . I finally got a decent speelchecker!) (OK! That's "spellchecker" . . it told me so!) Was only kidding re yank thing (we have as both verb and noun) . I don't think it follows that if one speaks English all will be well(re Idi) It's a sod when we are judged by where we were born,but it happens,ignorance rules .	Cicero (40)
513504	2007-01-09 00:10:00	Was only kidding re yank thing (we have as both verb and noun). I don't think it follows that if one speaks English all will be well(re Idi) It's a sod when we are judged by where we were born,but it happens,ignorance rules. No problem...I threw that in as a joke anyway...but yes...it is sad.	SurferJoe46 (51)
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