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Thread ID: 75773 2007-01-09 23:19:00 iPHONE rogerp (6864) PC World Chat
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514547 2007-01-14 10:48:00 Sorry, wrong, I do like Macs. Hell, I like computers, And a Mac is better then the vast majority of PC's sold.

Anymore reading between the lines you wish to do?, your great at it so far.
Metla (12)
514548 2007-01-14 11:00:00 yet for some strange reason the market is almost entirely windows.... i wonder why, if the latest mac is so great, this trend isn't changing:rolleyes:

In the 80s IBM was a highly respected mainframe and mini computer company and they decided to create what has become the IBM compatable PC. At the time there were dozens of emerging computer manufacturers, many of whom have gone the way of the dinosaur. M$ got the conteract to build the OS for IBMs creation. There is an old adage "no one ever got sacked buying IBM" which carried over from their previous products, IT departments stuck to buying the safe IBM brand and other PC manufacturers emerged copying the IBM PCs. This was because IBM used off the shelf componants that were readily available.

M$ continued to shaft everyone who got in their way - including IBM. AFAIK IBM are the only company that made a viable alternative to M$ with OS/2. By this time the majority of PCs in the world were based on the IBM model and were a safe bet for business and 'industry standard" software began to emerge, if you wanted to run business software you had no choice but to get an IBM compatable PC and you had little choice that DOS and Windows for your OS.

Just because VHS killed Betamax doesn't mean VHS is better!
Standing_Amazed (7841)
514549 2007-01-14 11:04:00 Anymore reading between the lines you wish to do?, your great at it so far.


Why thank you. I hope you're feeling better soon ;)
Standing_Amazed (7841)
514550 2007-01-14 19:21:00 Before I intriduced Macs into our home I regulary had to spend Sunday nights correcting problems my family encountered/caused on our Windows PCs. Now I spend next to no time at all. I still earn a lot of money fixing PCs for a living. I love Windows instability because it's so profitable

That I believe is why the IT boys and girls don't want Apple in a Microsoft environment. There wouldn't be as much requirement for IT help desks and IT tech support. Xsevres work very well in a multiplatform environment and are very simple to set up - probably a little bit too simple for some people to keep themselves buisy ;)
winmacguy (3367)
514551 2007-01-14 19:30:00 Was it OS9 or OS X because Classic had much more of an issue with PC networks with Apple talk than OS X does .


Dunno, don't remember .

That I believe is why the IT boys and girls don't want Apple in a Microsoft environment . There wouldn't be as much requirement for IT help desks and IT tech support .


Nonsense . I know plenty of people who support Macs in an IT environment . And I have done myself, F&P had one, yes it did need fixing now and then . Didn't spend a lot of time on it compared to PCs as the 900 PCs outnumbered the one and only Mac .

You can say the same thing about Citrix too - thats in a Windows environment and cuts the amount of support required . What does that tell you? Its not the O/S - its the user that vauses most of the problems .

Likewise Windows on a home PC, the experienced don't have problems much at all, the inexperienced do .
pctek (84)
514552 2007-01-14 19:32:00 Well as they say, all good things take time. :) And yes I agree pctek, PEBKAC is a big factor with trouble free computer usage especially where in experience and lack of confidence is a big factor (mainly among the over 35 generation)

Pity F&P only had one iMac...:) I know Ford Motor Company in Detroit use a number of them on their production line.
winmacguy (3367)
514553 2007-01-15 04:32:00 That I believe is why the IT boys and girls don't want Apple in a Microsoft environment. There wouldn't be as much requirement for IT help desks and IT tech support. Gosh. If you actually believe that ... :groan: Jen (38)
514554 2007-01-15 04:39:00 Gosh. If you actually believe that ... :groan:

Well not as much support as is required for a Windows only environment anyhow. Have you had experience with a Mac OS X/Windows XP envrionment to prove otherwise Jen?

I accept that you are always going to get development issues relating to "why won't this website work on my browser" and other stuff. But that is more PEBKAC that actual OS related.

PS. It would be a Malware free network if nothing else for the for seeable future.
winmacguy (3367)
514555 2007-01-15 04:45:00 It was your comment that IT personal are keeping Apples out of businesses just so they can have a job that I thought was ridiculous. Must be a lot of unprofessional IT staff around if that is your theory. I wasn't commenting on the maintenance of the different OS's. Jen (38)
514556 2007-01-15 04:51:00 Well I haven't seen a lot of articles around that say anything to the contrary although I think that might be starting to change a bit outside of the traditional media and publishing industrys.

Xserves are actually cheaper to lisence and operate that Windows servers in a multiplatform environment like say a TV station. I guess only time will tell. Have you tried to introduce Macs into a commercial Windows dominated environment yourself?
winmacguy (3367)
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