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Thread ID: 75773 2007-01-09 23:19:00 iPHONE rogerp (6864) PC World Chat
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514467 2007-01-12 07:02:00 And now this (www.nzherald.co.nz)That has to be the most ridiculous article I have ever read, and it was front page news! Someone that uses their iPhone moderately would be able to buy Vodafone's broadband Starter plan at $29 per month and heavier users would be able to use the Everyday plan at $49 per month. While it's not exactly cheap, it is more affordable than what Cingular is charging in the US and nowhere near the "hundreds of dollars" the NZ Herald claims it would cost per month. :rolleyes: maccrazy (6741)
514468 2007-01-12 07:23:00 I am a PC owner and an iPod owner. I would quite happily change all my gear to Apple if the gaming capabilities and software accessibility was the same as for PC's. Also I love the fact that I can completey customise my PC without having to go anywhere near a Mac dealer for installation.

Having said that aesthetics and ease of use are very important too.
It's about time PC makers came up with PC's as beautiful as Apples.
Ugly, vulgar looking PC's are a definite turn-off. Hardware designers often design PC cases which look worse than some Bogan's trashy Nissan Skyline advertised on Trade Me.

Also the iPod Nano is a design triumph with it's click-wheel interface (the easiest ever file navigation) combined with the simple, clean profile of the iPod case. iRivers and the like fell from the ugly-tree compared to the iPod.
So iPod's represent excellent value for money when you factor in their simple beauty and functionality. I ask you this....How do you feel when you wear a crap pair of shoes compared to some nice ones? They both do the same job, but the nice ones feel better.

Bring on the iPhone! It looks fantastic and if it works well I'll happily bin my iPaq PDA and buy one.
supersi (8401)
514469 2007-01-12 07:30:00 Yep, Mac has improved as its moved closer to the PC platform, No doubt about it. :rolleyes:

Lmfao, so much spin.

Nothing wrong with a modern Mac, Nothing fantastic about them either. You still get to pay a premium for limited choice in hardware and software which both contribute to the machines limitations.

It has nothing to do with creativity, Just personal preference.

Though I still fail to see how preferring OS9 to W98 makes all Apple products the greatest ever and Steve Knobs into a hero. If your mind was open when you sat down at your first Mac it most certainly isn't anymore.

The answer to life, The Universe, Everything isn't Apple, Apple is just another wanky brand.

Two things I'd like to pull you up on here. First is the fact that that my Intel iMac can run Windows and Linux, either within OSX or dual booting - and at full core 2 duo speed. So I actually have far more software choice that the average IBM compatable PC user. I made the switch to macs aa little over a year ago and can still use all my old software and peripherals. I don't consider myself short of peripheral to choose from either. I guess the question is why limit yourself to a machine that can't do that?

Secondly, you seem to consider all big brands to be rubbish - I suppose the only good PCs are the ones you make yourself?
Standing_Amazed (7841)
514470 2007-01-12 07:40:00 Got a color printer?? Then go here and download the cut PDF version. Impress your friends with your new tech toy... or you could wait for the real thing next year..

http://iphonecountdown.com/
paulw (1826)
514471 2007-01-12 07:41:00 The dual booting aspect is a pretty good point, Full marks to Apple, Though I personally wouldn't bother to emulate the PC enviorment after paying for an Apple, and games are still a bust, whether your so inclined or not.

Are big brands rubbish?

Generally yes, I have sat at many many well built quality pc's that weren't built by me,But not one of them were built by Dell, HP, Packard Bell or Gateway, In fact every single PC I have delved into built by the big brands have been utter crap.

And on the same token so were most that were built by smaller players, One man wonders and home builds.

If anyone was looking to purchase a Dell or similar they would be better served by buying a Mac. Or take it a step further and buy a PC to suit their needs from a local trusted assembler.
Metla (12)
514472 2007-01-12 08:11:00 Though I still fail to see how preferring OS9 to W98 makes all Apple products the greatest.

Well at the time I didn't really know anything about the Mac so I was starting with a fairly neutral opinion as it were. After using OS9 solidly for the duration of the course I had pretty much come to prefer the Mac over the PC which is where I stand today.

You say that the Mac has moved closer to the PC brand, well in terms of chip supplier they have but not in terms of interface design or system features.
winmacguy (3367)
514473 2007-01-12 08:21:00 I am a PC owner and an iPod owner. I would quite happily change all my gear to Apple if the gaming capabilities and software accessibility was the same as for PC's.
Bring on the iPhone! It looks fantastic and if it works well I'll happily bin my iPaq PDA and buy one.

For that to happen, Gaming apps would need to utilise the Open GL accellaration in the Mac OS. It may happen in the future.

Just reading your comments about "PC customization". Will wait till you have used the iPhone and then tell me that being able to customize something is better than having something that just works-assuming that the iPhone works like it is supposed to.
winmacguy (3367)
514474 2007-01-12 08:30:00 Got a color printer?? Then go here and download the cut PDF version. Impress your friends with your new tech toy... or you could wait for the real thing next year..

http://iphonecountdown.com/

Well, I suppose the PDF version would be 'super slim' :thumbs:

And what is with these Mac maniacs all of a sudden? It's like Steve Jobs gets on a stage and it's the Second Coming
:horrified
Shortcircuit (1666)
514475 2007-01-12 08:35:00 I just thought bugger it, If Macs are so well priced as claimed earlier I'll go and buy one.

And what do I see?, for $2700 you get an ugly poorly speced comp thats intergrated into the monitor with next to zero configuration options. all they let you do is select limited slightly higher spec components for outragous prices. Do you have any idea what you can get for $2700? It costs an additional $1400 to bump the ram upto 3gb:thumbs:.

You have to pay over four and a half grand for a comp in a case, and the base model in that line has 2 cpu's. Great rig for proffesional video editing no doubt, Mental just to avoid having the comps life dictated by the life of the screen.

And to think, The Mac spin was enough to get me interested.
Metla (12)
514476 2007-01-12 08:42:00 Two things I'd like to pull you up on here. First is the fact that that my Intel iMac can run Windows and Linux, either within OSX or dual booting - and at full core 2 duo speed. So I actually have far more software choice that the average IBM compatable PC user. I made the switch to macs aa little over a year ago and can still use all my old software and peripherals. I don't consider myself short of peripheral to choose from either. I guess the question is why limit yourself to a machine that can't do that?

Secondly, you seem to consider all big brands to be rubbish - I suppose the only good PCs are the ones you make yourself?

No, not at all. I have tried to pick my case, monitor, keyboard, speakers, router etc.. to all be have the same aesthetic that looks as good as say an Apple eMac G5 (single intergrated monitor and case looks fantastic) but you can't with PC's.
I object to forking-out thousands for a Mac with high Performance specs though. Question? How's your Mac holding-up for gaming?
supersi (8401)
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