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| Thread ID: 76028 | 2007-01-18 04:56:00 | What's a good, cheap RAM for overclocking? | qazwsxokmijn (102) | PC World Chat |
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| 517256 | 2007-01-18 22:33:00 | I just tried to loosen my RAM timings from 4-4-4-11 to 5-5-5-12. From the current 215MHz FSB, I tried it at 220MHz FSB, and the system won't boot. That's exactly what happens everytime I try to make the FSB anything higher than 215. When this happens, the computer goes a bit coocoo and shuts down/restarts for a few seconds, all the while my video card's fan cranks to full speed all the time, and may have stayed like that if I didn't shut it down manually. So when it doesn't boot, I have to clear the CMOS battery and reset the CMOS data. The MSI 945P Neo-F doesn't have this RAM:FSB ratio option. The manual also doesn't show anything. This is annoying....can anyone please tell me where I'm going wrong? I can't set anything higher than 215MHz FSB or else the system won't boot and will go coocoo for a few seconds. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 517257 | 2007-01-18 22:57:00 | When you overclock you are trying to make a computer go faster than the manufacturers are prepared to guarantee it will work . The manufacturers' ratings are conservative because they know that most of their customers want a computer which will work reliably . You might be able to go a bit faster, but you are working outside what the makers consider prudent, and there are limits . Below the guaranteed speed, you should get totally reliable hardware . Above, you will have a region where a computer will run faster, and reliably (most of the time) at the cost of shorter life for some components (though most parts will still be obsolete before they fail) . Further overclocking gets into an area where the computer doesn't work . If your computer won't even boot, that indicates that you are crossing the boundary into the non-operation region . What you are doing wrong is trying to go above 215 MHz FSB on that particular computer . :D |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 517258 | 2007-01-19 00:27:00 | No, no, I know that my motherboard can handle up yto 266MHz FSB. It supports that 1066MHz Pentium Extreme Edition CPU. I just don't know which component is holding me back....I have my eyes on the RAM though. | qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 517259 | 2007-01-19 01:52:00 | No, no, I know that my motherboard can handle up yto 266MHz FSB. It supports that 1066MHz Pentium Extreme Edition CPU. I just don't know which component is holding me back....I have my eyes on the RAM though. That board is not made for OCing... hence the lack of options (my guess) Just because the options go upto 266MHz does NOT mean it can run at that, all depends on the other hardware. Look in the BIOS for the option, not the manual... Are you sure it is not the CPU? try lowering the multi (you can usually lower it, I am not sure about the PDs though) and then put the FSB up and see if it willl boot, my thinking is that the CPU is staved of the voltage needed to reach that...I know mine needed more juice at about 250MHz increase |
The_End_Of_Reality (334) | ||
| 517260 | 2007-01-19 02:04:00 | Yeah, I referred to both the manual and the BIOS. No options for ratios. What do you mean by multi? You mean the CPU multiplier? I've already 'Enabled' the CPU ratio unlock, but I still can't change the multiplier because the option doesn't show up. As for voltage wise, I believe it was tomshardware or something that said Pentium D 930 was able to go up to 3870MHz on stock cooling and voltage(1.22v). To be honest, I am being a pussy when it comes to raising voltages. So I'm not going to mess around with the voltage lol. Well, if 215 is what this coward will take, 215 it is I will stick with. :( |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 517261 | 2007-01-19 02:51:00 | Yeah, I referred to both the manual and the BIOS. No options for ratios. What do you mean by multi? You mean the CPU multiplier? I've already 'Enabled' the CPU ratio unlock, but I still can't change the multiplier because the option doesn't show up. As for voltage wise, I believe it was tomshardware or something that said Pentium D 930 was able to go up to 3870MHz on stock cooling and voltage(1.22v). To be honest, I am being a pussy when it comes to raising voltages. So I'm not going to mess around with the voltage lol. Well, if 215 is what this coward will take, 215 it is I will stick with. :( Well then that tells you that the mobo was not made for OCing... :rolleyes: There should be numbers (possibly) with the ratio unlock. It all depends on what chip you get, NONE are identical, some may go that far... others might only just run at stock speeds on stock voltages... It is not *THAT* hard or risky, a small 0.1v increase does wonders for an OC... my CPU has an extra 0.25v over stock and that is well within the limits for it... Just raise the CPU voltage by 0.1V and then try go to 220MHz, if it works then the CPU is the hold back... If not resore it back to stock V and bump up the DRAM V by 0.1V and then (if it is the RAM limiting it) will allow you to get to 220MHz I would think. It is really not that hard, you just have to watch the Voltage limits and the temps... and if you get smoke or a fire, then you know something was too high :rolleyes: |
The_End_Of_Reality (334) | ||
| 517262 | 2007-01-19 02:56:00 | Yeah, I referred to both the manual and the BIOS. No options for ratios. What do you mean by multi? You mean the CPU multiplier? I've already 'Enabled' the CPU ratio unlock, but I still can't change the multiplier because the option doesn't show up. As for voltage wise, I believe it was tomshardware or something that said Pentium D 930 was able to go up to 3870MHz on stock cooling and voltage(1.22v). To be honest, I am being a pussy when it comes to raising voltages. So I'm not going to mess around with the voltage lol. Well, if 215 is what this coward will take, 215 it is I will stick with. :( Erh, dont think so mate....in fact, I'll eat my hat if you can show me the proof. Hard enough for prescott to get to take on stock let alone 2 of them glued together. |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 517263 | 2007-01-19 03:04:00 | Erh, dont think so mate....in fact, I'll eat my hat if you can show me the proof. Hard enough for prescott to get to take on stock let alone 2 of them glued together. Pentium D 9xx line CPUs are Presler, which are two Cedar Mill cores, not the hot Prescotts. Can you eat your hat anyway? :p David, will 0.2 or 0.3 voltage increase the temperature significantly? I'll try increasing the CPU voltage by 0.1, but if my computer dies on me, you owe me, k? :p |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 517264 | 2007-01-19 03:27:00 | Yes, it increases it by a fair bit... that is why I said try 0.1 to start with and watch the temps... DICLAIMER: under no circumstances am I accountable for the replacement/cost of any components that die due to my advice, going too far can result in dead components. I have not broken anything by the advice that I have given in this thread. you do all overclocking at your own risk There, now I don't :p |
The_End_Of_Reality (334) | ||
| 517265 | 2007-01-19 03:37:00 | Diclaimer? Nah, that's not valid unless you edit it to DiSclaimer lol. :p I just started back up after increasing the CPU voltage by 0.2v and increasing memory voltage from 1.8 to 1.9. Then, I tried 220. Still no luck. Stupid thing won't boot, computer goes a bit coocoo, turning on and off, my X850XT PE's fan on 100% all the while...... Dammit....I don't know now..... |
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