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726909 2008-12-12 23:35:00 Ok this is what I would do to upgrade your computer to be able to play modern games a heck of alot better then what you can now,if at all!!!:)

1. MORE RAM = 2 x 1 gig ddr 2 800 ram.

2. NEW CPU =AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+,dual core,socket AM2,3GHz.
Or
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+,dual core,AM2 3.2GHz

3. NEW GPU = ATI 4850 512mb or ATI 4850 1 gig or Nvidia 9800GTX+ 512mb.

4. NEW PSU =450 Watt or greater power supply with 75 Watt 6-pin PCI Express® power connector recommended (550 Watt and two 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)

PSU:
1. Get a name brand PSU.
2. A modular one is great to get because it is easy to install because you only need to plug in the cables you need to,so it is tidy,less cluter,better airflow.
3. PSU has a 120mm fan - quiter and gets rid of heat better.

Thats all I would do with that computer!!!
(And a Bigger monitor as well when you can afford it,LCD 22''.)

Or you could get a new computer!!!

Use www.pricespy.co.nz (http://www.pricespy.co.nz) to save you some money!!!:thumbs: 		memphis (2869)
726910 2008-12-12 23:54:00 quote=sarel;Saw this one on Trademe - OK?

Nvidia 8600 GT
sarel

No way man ALL 8600 series suck period!!!:yuck::groan::badpc:

Either get a ATI 4850 512mb or ATI 4850 1 GIG or Nvidia 9800GTX+ 512mb.
:thumbs: 		memphis (2869)
726911 2008-12-13 00:21:00 Remember the great thing about upgrading is you dont have to buy everything all in one go,you can spread it out over your pay days if you have to!!!:)

So if I was upgrading your computer I would start with:
1. RAM__(to make it run faster:cheap/easy upgrade dont need to do anything else).
2. CPU_________(next thing to do to make your computer run faster/play games better).
3. PSU_________(Have to so you can get a really good graphic card to play games).
4. GPU = (Graphics Processing Unit = Graphics Card).____(to play your games sweet as).
:)

USE www.pricespy.co.nz to SAVE you some MONEY on computer parts!!!

Or you could keep it for family computer,internet,homework,downloading computer for .........,watching movies,listening to music,spare computer for others to use and not bug you to use your computer and get a gaming computer just for you and your games!!!:) 		memphis (2869)
726912 2008-12-13 00:44:00 Ok this is what I would do to upgrade your computer to be able to play modern games a heck of alot better then what you can now,if at all!!!:)

1. MORE RAM = 2 x 1 gig ddr 2 800 ram.

2. NEW CPU =AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+,dual core,socket AM2,3GHz.
Or
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+,dual core,AM2 3. 2GHz

3. NEW GPU = ATI 4850 512mb or ATI 4850 1 gig or Nvidia 9800GTX+ 512mb.

4. NEW PSU =450 Watt or greater power supply with 75 Watt 6-pin PCI Express® power connector recommended (550 Watt and two 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)

PSU:
1. Get a name brand PSU.
2. A modular one is great to get because it is easy to install because you only need to plug in the cables you need to,so it is tidy,less cluter,better airflow.
3. PSU has a 120mm fan - quiter and gets rid of heat better.

Thats all I would do with that computer!!!
(And a Bigger monitor as well when you can afford it,LCD 22''.)

Or you could get a new computer!!!

Use www.pricespy.co.nz (http://www.pricespy.co.nz) to save you some money!!!:thumbs:

So therefore a new processor will almost essentially mean new motherboard, which means new computer, new xp license, new everything except for the box. If it gets to this stage you're almost certainly better off getting an entire new PC. 		mabix (10146)
726913 2008-12-13 01:11:00 quote=mabix;So therefore a new processor will almost essentially mean new motherboard, which means new computer, new xp license, new everything except for the box. If it gets to this stage you're almost certainly better off getting an entire new PC.

NO it wont,if you had read my previous post I said to get either a:
2. NEW CPU =AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+,dual core,socket AM2,3GHz.
Or
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+,dual core,AM2 3.2GHz.

Which his present motherboard can use if it has the latest bios update for his motherboard.

So he does not need to do anything else like you have said.:groan::lol:

All he has to do is::D
1. Get the latest bios update for his motherboard.
2. Install a NEW CPU =AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+,dual core,socket AM2,3GHz.
Or
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+,dual core,AM2 3.2GHz.

Simple as that!!!:thumbs:

Ps.Sarel:If you dont know how to do a bios update for your motherboard take it to a good computer shop and get them to do it for you or get a computer savy mate to to it for you.:D

And yes a new faster computer is allways better then an old one,but at the moment were talking about upgrading the computer he has at the moment!!! 		memphis (2869)
726914 2008-12-13 01:47:00 Thanks guys for all the replies. Remember one thing - for the last year or two I've been quite happy :thumbs: with this PC - however bad the CPU was. I did upgrade the RAM from 512 to 1G on receipt. I have no intention of playing memory-sucking games. My current crop of games play quite well on the current system - so yes, I do have a 10 sec freeze halfway through a C&C 3 Skirmish :o, but so what. I just wait 10 secs and go on.

To me the most sensible option would be to get paired 1 G ramsticks. After that I may consider the graphics card, but to be quite honest, the integrated system is OK for me for now. I've got no need for a superduper new system - because I think upgrading is a pure waste of $$$, I will be better off buying new. SWMBO bought a flatscreen 42" the other day so my chances of buying something I want is really zero (and no, she won't "allow" me to get a new system).

sarel 		sarel (2490)
726915 2008-12-13 01:58:00 quote=mabix;So therefore a new processor will almost essentially mean new motherboard, which means new computer, new xp license, new everything except for the box. If it gets to this stage you're almost certainly better off getting an entire new PC.

NO it wont,if you had read my previous post I said to get either a:
2. NEW CPU =AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+,dual core,socket AM2,3GHz.
Or
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+,dual core,AM2 3.2GHz.

Which his present motherboard can use if it has the latest bios update for his motherboard.

So he does not need to do anything else like you have said.:groan::lol:

All he has to do is::D
1. Get the latest bios update for his motherboard.
2. Install a NEW CPU =AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+,dual core,socket AM2,3GHz.
Or
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+,dual core,AM2 3.2GHz.

Simple as that!!!:thumbs:

Ps.Sarel:If you dont know how to do a bios update for your motherboard take it to a good computer shop and get them to do it for you or get a computer savy mate to to it for you.:D

And yes a new faster computer is allways better then an old one,but at the moment were talking about upgrading the computer he has at the moment!!!

Yes, but when you look at the contributing factors, such as Motherboard features, the fact that that much of a hardware upgrade warrants a new license. He's much better off in the long run investing in an entirely new computer, as it is highly likely that upgrading will leave gaps which will need to be fulfilled with more features. The Intel processors offer a much better performance to dollar ratio, because while you may look at the statistics and say they aren't that far apart, in overall use a Core 2 kicks the X2's butt all the way across the great wall of china.

However the games he said that he would want to play aren't exactly unusable on a 7600GTX, and my one still suffice's to play every single game that comes out. It may not be in full quality, but hey, when it's that much of a saving, it doesn't bother me.

The real limiting factors in his PC are the processor and the ram. You might be right in saying get a new CPU, but it would be a far smarter decision to invest in a new custom built PC then continuously upgrading. It's not parts are that expensive. 		mabix (10146)
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