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| Thread ID: 76226 | 2007-01-25 06:04:00 | Phonographic Performances New Zealand Limited | Twelvevolts (5457) | PC World Chat |
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| 519171 | 2007-01-25 06:04:00 | Had never heard of this lot until today when they managed to get a publican fined for playing music he'd already purchased. The law apparently requires you to pay for your music two or three times, the law should be changed. Of course the PPNZ claim the money goes to the song writer but no doubt it mainly goes to them. Looks like double dipping to give themselves a job, to pay for the Managing Director, Senior Licensing Officer and Financial Controller (not to mention the Busines Development Manager). Love to know what their cut is as no one but the PPNZ seems to benefit. I suspect the artists would be happy for the free advertising they get from the public performance. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 519172 | 2007-01-25 23:39:00 | It was a public performance of a CD www.stuff.co.nz |
DRHILL (3490) | ||
| 519173 | 2007-01-26 00:40:00 | Hey where's the por... oh it's "phonographic"... sorry my mistake :D | Murray P (44) | ||
| 519174 | 2007-01-26 02:42:00 | Sorry, it's not a fiddle . Twlevevolts may never have heard of the organisation, but this has always been the law . You buy a CD or record, (or probably a punched paper roll for your player piano) and you are entitled to play it in private . If you use it for public performance, you must pay a fee . Radio stations are required to keep a log of every piece of recorded music they play, and they pay the fee . If you play CDs in your shop or pub, , you can pay an annual fee, and you don't have to keep the log . The performers get the money (less the cost of running the collection, of course) . I'm sure the perfromer like the "advertising", but they would like the money more . I suspect that shops which play a radio to annoy their customers are also liable to pay the annual fee . One day I'll report a shop which annoys me too much . :D |
Graham L (2) | ||
| 519175 | 2007-01-26 05:08:00 | The performers do not get any money from PPNZ it goes to the record company for use of the recording. APRA collects money on behalf of the performers for the use of their work in public, this includes a band playing their songs or playing a cd etc. |
Steven (7085) | ||
| 519176 | 2007-01-26 07:09:00 | Sorry, it's not a fiddle . Twlevevolts may never have heard of the organisation, but this has always been the law . You buy a CD or record, (or probably a punched paper roll for your player piano) and you are entitled to play it in private . If you use it for public performance, you must pay a fee . Radio stations are required to keep a log of every piece of recorded music they play, and they pay the fee . If you play CDs in your shop or pub, , you can pay an annual fee, and you don't have to keep the log . The performers get the money (less the cost of running the collection, of course) . I'm sure the perfromer like the "advertising", but they would like the money more . I suspect that shops which play a radio to annoy their customers are also liable to pay the annual fee . One day I'll report a shop which annoys me too much . :D I know service stations have to pay an anual fee for broadcasting radio stations in their shop/forecourt |
plod (107) | ||
| 519177 | 2007-01-26 07:31:00 | A fish and chip shop was done a few years back for playing music to waiting customers (and refusing to pay the licence). | godfather (25) | ||
| 519178 | 2007-01-26 09:08:00 | A fish and chip shop was done a few years back for playing music to waiting customers (and refusing to pay the licence). Being a little facetious here. I wonder how much various companies pay for music they play when you are on hold. Or in a lift for that matter. And if I invite friends to a dinner party as I do from time to time and they overhear my CDs does that constitute a public performance? I would not think so in this case as I do not admit the Public and nor do I charge my friends. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 519179 | 2007-01-26 09:23:00 | The performers do not get any money from PPNZ it goes to the record company for use of the recording. APRA collects money on behalf of the performers for the use of their work in public, this includes a band playing their songs or playing a cd etc.Well any royalty should in part go to the artist, or at least help the artist reduce their debt to the recording companies. Depends on who owns the works. Chances are it will be absorbed in administrative costs anyway |
personthingy (1670) | ||
| 519180 | 2007-01-26 21:46:00 | They should all use MP3's which have been released to the public domain. That way, the revenue to this organisation would drop and they would have to rethink their policy. Of course, the fact that radio stations play music and thousands of people listen to radio, must have some effect on the popularity of music. Quick rethink. Maybe they should get the music off the internet and pay a nominal amount DIRECT to the artist. |
dolby digital (5073) | ||
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