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| Thread ID: 76393 | 2007-01-30 23:26:00 | Alternatives to Vista. | Nomad (952) | PC World Chat |
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| 520941 | 2007-01-31 10:46:00 | Nomad: 64-bit windows still really really sucks! You might have a 64-bit OS, but thats about all that you get, the majority of apps that run on your desktop will still be 32-bit sadly With the likes of Linux, we've been fully completely stable 64-bit for about 2 1/2 years now (give or take 6 months either way maybe, depending on your definition of stable). It was approx 2 years ago that I ran my first fully 64-bit desktop with no 32-bit code in sight, and I must say it absolutely rockets by comparison! The native drivers that come with Vista work better... when they work that is :-/ 64-bit Vista didnt even wanna know about my nVidia Ti4200, thinking I had a Generic SGVA card with 128MB Video RAM!?! At least the 32-bit Vista gave me the correct drivers, even though I couldnt update them to any of the released ones from the nVidia website... I even spent about 3 hours trying to hack up the driver files etc to make it work, no joy at all. Not to mention no support for my soundcard or my TV Tuner... What also really bugged me was it just churning away in the background, even after I turned off all the indexing services etc Thats what I liked so much about linux, or even XP! It just does what its told (for the better part), and Im still not having to worry about viruses or people doing stupid things as an administrator user to the machine ;) Will you use any of Vistas new features? Probably not.. Bitlocker to me would be the only good reason to upgrade, but thats a pretty bad reason for most people. Overall, its bigger, bulkier, slower, and I just wasnt impressed... Try dual-booting with OpenSuSE 10.2 and see for yourself! |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 520942 | 2007-01-31 21:29:00 | I may give it a try. Hopefully MS also has some free Beta's for download :D For a boring computer, no fancy graphics or sounds how is it. Is MS Office supported, a good Anti Virus, software firewall, Photoshop supported? Firefox supported? I take it MSN Messenger is provided off Windows. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 520943 | 2007-01-31 21:33:00 | everyone should learn how to make their own customized versions of gentoo. then we cant blame anyone but ourselves if it dosent work lol. | mabix (10146) | ||
| 520944 | 2007-01-31 21:35:00 | Great in theory but that doesn't account for all of the "Know nothing office PC users" who don't care to build their own systems. | winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 520945 | 2007-01-31 23:51:00 | I dont understand why hackers get a total buzz out of cracking microsofts new os vista whats the thrill in it is it just so they can gloat to their friends and say aye guess what i cracked vista big deal. It more or less like anything that electronic if its a burglar alarm keypad or a bank safe they will crack it so whats the big deal. These guys must be so bored and desperate for something to do they have to crack everything just for a cheap kick. For the average joe, vista or any other microsoft os works fine for them so why do these other boffins have to try one upmanship to prove they can crack an os it doesnt make sense to me. You've been sucked into the whole "hackers are just teenagers" illusion. Most hackers nowadays are doing it for money. Selling zombies (infected PCs) on the black market is quite common. Groups needing zombies for sending spam would simply pay a hacker/trojan author for a group of maybe a thousand infected machines and could then use them for sending spam. |
TGoddard (7263) | ||
| 520946 | 2007-01-31 23:58:00 | Do you mean in terms of games or something else? Because I don't see Apple going all out for games in the near future, they are more interested in making the living room/home entertainment set up simple, hence the recent release of the Apple TV setup. yes i meant gaming, as if linux/mac were dx9/10 compatible switching would be based simply on a preference of the interface I dont understand why hackers get a total buzz out of cracking microsofts new os vista whats the thrill in it is it just so they can gloat to their friends and say aye guess what i cracked vista big deal. i'm not complaining, it means you can get free vista! not that i would get a pirate copy rather than pay the $600 of course:rolleyes: |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 520947 | 2007-02-01 00:09:00 | yes i meant gaming, as if linux/mac were dx9/10 compatible switching would be based simply on a preference of the interface Well as I mentioned before ( and it would most likely be Open GL rather than dx9/10) Apple doesn't at this stage appear to have any interest in developing gaming for the Mac although I have read comments about further development of games on both the iPod and iPhone, so whether something happens there we will just have to wait and see. As for the rest I think Apple is just happen with its current yearly sales increases and opening up new Apple stores in both the US and Asia. Also note that Current Dell CEO Kevin Rollins has just resigned due to Dell's very poor performing last quarter and a Senior Zune guy at Microsoft has just left to pursue "personal interests" ""A senior Microsoft Corp. executive who oversaw the launch of its Zune digital music player plans to leave the company, the world's largest software maker said on Wednesday," Reuters reports. "Bryan Lee, corporate vice president at Microsoft's entertainment and devices division, ... is a key deputy of Robbie Bach, head of Microsoft's entertainment and device division. J Allard, a rising star within Microsoft and one of the early Xbox leaders, will now take full responsibility for the Zune business," Reuters reports. |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 520948 | 2007-02-01 01:40:00 | a Senior Zune guy at Microsoft has just left to pursue "personal interests" lol, as i said just 5 minutes ago in another thread, he's probably leaving to avoid the lawsuits when ppl start sueing over Zune screens cracking due to a design fault and it not being covered under warranty i still don't see why mac doesnt push for opengl or DX . they would make even more money as gamers would actually begin to consider mac an option . who cares about "media centre capabilities" and home intertainment - even xp does it, not just mac . now lets not start another "macs are/aren't that great" war plz . i'm just saying that gaming on a mac would open mac up to a whole new market of potential buyers, hurting MS sales somewhat . hell, it might even bring the price of vista down on an unrelated note . lets say 100 million copies of vista sell over the first 5 years, and ms get 400 bucks from each . that's 100,000,000*400=40 billion:horrified $40,000,000,000 *** how can they justify charging so much? NB: all figures were just guestimates, but i thought 500 million US citizens plus businesses would allow for 100million business copies to be sold, with shops collecting $200 on each one . especially considering after 2 reinstalls u need to buy a new one . i do realise i have not factored in OEM packages into the $400 |
motorbyclist (188) | ||
| 520949 | 2007-02-01 01:59:00 | i still don't see why mac doesnt push for opengl or DX. they would make even more money as gamers would actually begin to consider mac an option. who cares about "media centre capabilities" and home intertainment - even xp does it, not just mac. I don't think Apple is too worried about making more money. Their focus appears to be on the home entertainment market for the forseable future with the likes of Apple TV which does PC and Mac, the iPod, Front Row for the Mac which runs rings around Media Centre. Edit: First people have to want to buy Vista. |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 520950 | 2007-02-01 02:03:00 | Most hackers nowadays are doing it for money. Selling zombies (infected PCs) on the black market is quite common. Yes hackers. However crackers - the ones likely to find ways around MS legit copies, don't usually have anything to do with malware. Bit of a debate over the terminlogy I know but I consider crackers to be in that category as opposed to hacking. And I suppose a friend of mine could be considered a cracker - he isn't interested in disabling piracy checks, but he does like to pull programs inc O/Ss to bits to disable or alter things he finds annoying. He's one of the most handy guys I know. Long may he continue. |
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