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Thread ID: 76384	2007-01-30 20:26:00	Sorry Surfer Joe, but this is amusing	Mike (15)	PC World Chat

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520837	2007-01-31 22:09:00	This is not my understanding of the term Bible Basher . See Wikipedia: . wikipedia . org/wiki/Bible_basher" target="_blank">en . wikipedia . org Bible thumper (also Bible basher, or Bible Beater) is a derisive term used to describe Christian fundamentalists, or anyone perceived as aggressively pushing their religious beliefs upon those who do not share them . As an insult, its target domain is broad and can often extend to anyone engaged in a public show of religiosity, fundamentalist or not . The term alludes to a preacher thumping his hand hard down on the lectern and the Bible on it to emphasize a point during a sermon . Sorry . . . that does not meet with US terminology . . . a basher is one who derides or despises something . . . bashing a race or denomination is definitely anti-whatever the subject is . Now, a Bible-Whacker is one who pushes the Bible or forces someone to capitulate to a forced pretense . This even makes more sense than the preacher whacking a Bible as opposed to bashing it down . . . which does not paint a valid mental image . Maybe there is a different Wiki for Upsidedown Land . . . but the Yankee version of basher is derogatory and demeaning . Ahhh! But you and I know it's just semantics anyway .	SurferJoe46 (51)
520838	2007-01-31 22:35:00	More on Texas, Bush, and stupid Americans: I found this when Googling "Bible Basher" . . gurteen . com/gurteen/gurteen . nsf/id/L001343/" target="_blank">www . gurteen . com Ask yourself a simple question: which state has the highest divorce rate? Marriage was a key issue in the last election, with Massachusetts’ gay marriages becoming a symbol of alleged blue state decadence and moral decay . But in fact Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate in the country at 2 . 4 divorces per 1,000 inhabitants . Texas, which until recently made private gay sex a crime, has a divorce rate of 4 . 1 . Yeah . . . the NUMBERS look dismal alright . . . but consider this: homosexual marriage is not legal in most states, and any separation (divorce) they may have in Massachusetts is not a legal divorce either . . . . kinda skews the figures . . . no? It probably just means that there's more homosexual "marriages" that are not regularized, and cannot be legally divorced either . . . so they won't get onto the official divorce list . Ya gotta remember too that Massachusetts has (as great visionaries and socially-up building families), the Kennedys . Howcome all the Kennedy troubles start with trouser malfunctions? (Hey . . I think this was Clinton's trouble too . . . maybe I'm onto a Democrat trend here) Ask about Chappaquiddick and the bridge thereof . Ask why didn't Ted Kennedy drive a Volkswagen on that night . . the night he left a drunk woman in the front seat to drown after he drove off the side of the bridge; himself blotto and stewed . A Volkswagen would have given MaryJo a better chance of surviving . . . . VW's float longer .	SurferJoe46 (51)
520839	2007-02-01 05:06:00	Sorry...that does not meet with US terminology...a basher is one who derides or despises something...bashing a race or denomination is definitely anti-whatever the subject is. Now, a Bible-Whacker is one who pushes the Bible or forces someone to capitulate to a forced pretense. This even makes more sense than the preacher whacking a Bible as opposed to bashing it down...which does not paint a valid mental image. Maybe there is a different Wiki for Upsidedown Land...but the Yankee version of basher is derogatory and demeaning. Ahhh! But you and I know it's just semantics anyway. Well, I have used Google, A9 and Turbo10, and looked at various online dictionaries and nowhere do I see the definition that you give. Can you find something? Not for the word "basher" but for the wordS "bible basher" - or "Bible-basher".	Strommer (42)
520840	2007-02-01 06:45:00	Well, I have used Google, A9 and Turbo10, and looked at various online dictionaries and nowhere do I see the definition that you give . Can you find something? Not for the word "basher" but for the wordS "bible basher" - or "Bible-basher" . If you type a word followed by a full colon into your Google browser, you can use that as a way to find the meanings of words too . Type in "Define: basher" and get this: Definitions of basher on the Web: * A variety of trainspotter who wants to travel in or behind each train rather than just see it . Also "track basher" - someone who wants to travel on every possible bit of track . or * In the Planescape jargon, basher is a neutral reference to a person . or if you type this in: "define: bashing" you get this answer: Related phrases: gay basher/ing; dungeon-basher/ing French basher/ing queer-basher/ing trans-basher/ing (whatever that is) Bush-basher/ing gay-basher/ing "Bible-basher" however gets no answer at all this way . . so I suggest it is not a typical use . It just is not used in US jargon as anything associated with the Bible . . . . although I suppose it could be forced somehow . I still contend that Bible-bashing is the act of denigration of someone who is possibly quoting from the Bible . . . . or even a pejorative phrase indicating someone who misuses the Bible for their own purposes . . usually associated with spinning a scripture to mean something it does not . Bible-thumping or Bible-whacking is a pejorative description of someone who spiels from scripture as in a "fire-and-brimstone" type preacher . Visualize getting your chest thumped/pounded by a preacher or being whacked/hit over the head by the Bible by such a forceful preaching . . . makes sense to me . I cannot make the transition from Bible-basher to forcefully hitting the Bible on a pulpit or speaker's platform though . Sounds like bad English use to me . . but then again, I have Yankee ears . Basher does not sound like hitting anything . . . not like it was proffered in the post here . Smasher, hitter, duffer, smiter (Bruce, are you listening?), blaster, boinker, smacker, hacker, thumper, whacker, all sound like an act of striking something or someone . SOME colloquialisms and local color and jargon don't translate well to another form of English . . even NZ type . US English is 'way different from UK or NZ English . . . and I'll take that chocy fish now .	SurferJoe46 (51)
520841	2007-02-01 10:54:00	I still contend that Bible-bashing is the act of denigration of someone who is possibly quoting from the Bible....or even a pejorative phrase indicating someone who misuses the Bible for their own purposes..usually associated with spinning a scripture to mean something it does not. The term Bible-bashing in this part of the world is generally used to describe what you Jehovah's Witnesses do when you come knocking on our doors. But the quote above pretty well describes you JW's as well.	Mackin_NZ (6958)
520842	2007-02-01 19:38:00	Surfer wrote: "Bible-basher" however gets no answer at all this way..so I suggest it is not a typical use. ... Bible-thumping or Bible-whacking is a pejorative description of someone who spiels from scripture as in a "fire-and-brimstone" type preacher. It may not be in typical use as it is in Australasia and the UK but it is odd that no online American dictionary - that I could find - gives your explanation. For example, MSN Encarta (which I assume to be USA) has this: Bible-basher U.K. (slang ) Same as Bible-thumper and then for Bible-thumper: vehement promoter of Christianity: a committed Christian whose outspoken evangelizing is regarded by some as extreme (slang) (offensive) Surfer, I do not live in the USA and have not been there since '99, so I believe what you say but just wonder if your explanation is perhaps just for your area. It is unusual not to see a dictionary definition that fits your explanation. Remember, this is not about the word 'basher' on its own. In any case I do think we both agree with the sentiments portrayed in the video highlighted by Mike, and probably about Texans and USA neo-cons in general.	Strommer (42)
520843	2007-02-01 19:59:00	you Jehovah's Witnesses describes you JW's as well. You JWs?????????? Who?	pctek (84)
520844	2007-02-01 21:34:00	Surfer wrote: "Bible-basher" however gets no answer at all this way . . so I suggest it is not a typical use . . . . Bible-thumping or Bible-whacking is a pejorative description of someone who spiels from scripture as in a "fire-and-brimstone" type preacher . It may not be in typical use as it is in Australasia and the UK but it is odd that no online American dictionary - that I could find - gives your explanation . For example, MSN Encarta (which I assume to be USA) has this: Bible-basher U . K . (slang ) Same as Bible-thumper and then for Bible-thumper: vehement promoter of Christianity: a committed Christian whose outspoken evangelizing is regarded by some as extreme (slang) (offensive) Surfer, I do not live in the USA and have not been there since '99, so I believe what you say but just wonder if your explanation is perhaps just for your area . It is unusual not to see a dictionary definition that fits your explanation . Remember, this is not about the word 'basher' on its own . In any case I do think we both agree with the sentiments portrayed in the video highlighted by Mike, and probably about Texans and USA neo-cons in general . Actually, yes I do agree with the video . . . and to the shame of those who answered so poorly if at all . My "area" is decidedly omni-US . . . born and raised on the Eastern Seaboard, and later finished my schooling in SoCal . . . uh huh . . . the armpit of education . The term in question just does not feel good in my ear . . . . . and I am sure that you recognize that effect . I had a good solid education in what turned out to be better by a huge exponential than what California could even offer on a Junior College level . . . and this was my high school years . So, actually, I have been in the least exposed to many varied jargon-laced local dialects from the Deep South of the Mason/Dixon Line to Connecticut Yankee, New York Drawl, Virginia Twang and California Sloppy . Terminology is the weakness, as it appears to be here too . Your "carpark" is my "parking lot", (and as a sidebar, my Google spell-checker is throwing fits when I use terms that youse guys have as your local colour), so I can guess that you might also get the same results when you use terms that I consider normal . "Youse guys" is just thrown in for fun by me . . as I know it is very poor language skills to use it . Your "choky fish" thing threw me for a loop at first, but I found it is some sort of reward . . . much like a "Dewey Button" or "gold star" here . Car-bash is not in my vocabulary, but accident is . This kinda is what I said all along anyway: "Bible-basher U . K . (slang ) Same as Bible-thumper and then for Bible-thumper: vehement promoter of Christianity: a committed Christian whose outspoken evangelizing is regarded by some as extreme (slang) (offensive) " Not really sure if Encarta is US-based either . . . . Encarta is also not in my Google spell-checker and is underlined in red . My Language default is English, US Standard in Google and Firefox . It's just a territorial thing at most . . and I feel that we can all get along well in spite of it . The red part seems to be a UK-thing . . . not a US thing . Thank goodness there are different colors/colours of paint too . . . . and thanks for the info and insight .	SurferJoe46 (51)
520845	2007-02-01 22:27:00	You JWs?????????? Who? SurferJoe is a Jehovah's Witness.	Mackin_NZ (6958)
520846	2007-02-02 06:02:00	SurferJoe is a Jehovah's Witness. Thanks for the warning.	pctek (84)
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