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Thread ID: 76365 2007-01-30 05:33:00 is the "Bachelor of Architectural Studies" course right for me? thomas09 (10276) PC World Chat
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520557 2007-01-30 05:33:00 im not too sure what i really want to do, but the Bachelor of Architectural Studies looks like a nice challenging course for me. I like design and construction/engineering too. I looked at Seek, Trademe Jobs and another site and there seems to be lots of software architects and not alot of commercial architecture jobs. Does anyone know what kind of Salary a junior architect would earn. What kind of career path would be open to me when i finish this course? Thank You! thomas09 (10276)
520558 2007-01-30 06:39:00 Lest see............being the one who came up with the next generation of leaky houses? pctek (84)
520559 2007-01-30 07:16:00 Is that at auckland university, because i hear that degree is A LOT OF WORK. I can't emphasis this enough, prepare for all nighters, even if you're totally prepared. There's probably a lot of software architects because no one wants to be one :P.

from careers.govt.nz:
Salaries vary, but architects usually earn between $30,000 and $70,000 per year. Self-employed architects may earn more than this.

But seriously, you shouldn't be choosing a job based on how much money you make. You'll end up being a boring lawyer.
DangerousDave (697)
520560 2007-01-30 07:44:00 im not too sure what i really want to do, but the Bachelor of Architectural Studies looks like a nice challenging course for me. I like design and construction/engineering too. I looked at Seek, Trademe Jobs and another site and there seems to be lots of software architects and not alot of commercial architecture jobs. Does anyone know what kind of Salary a junior architect would earn. What kind of career path would be open to me when i finish this course? Thank You!

Why do you want to do that course?

I see you want something challenging.
Have you managed to find others who have done such a course and seen what is expected (coursework, homework etc?) and what about after grad?

What is your background?

etc etc.
bob_doe_nz (92)
520561 2007-01-30 08:14:00 Why not post on GPOD?

Oh wait....
roddy_boy (4115)
520562 2007-01-30 10:58:00 I chose my prospective career on the basis of how much money I'll make. I dont see anything wrong with that although I also happen to like Accounting and Business so I guess thats a great combination. beeswax34 (63)
520563 2007-01-30 12:02:00 I can see where Dave is coming from..you may spend a good 30-40 years using the degree you choose. Money is important, but so is happiness.
If you can talk to someone who is qualified and does the work you hope to be doing, you will get a more honest answer about the best and the worst of
things.
Engineering has many disciplines and some can be intertwined...eg structural/
roading. Lots of opportunities overseas as well as in New Zealand.
Good luck, whatever you choose to study.
Marnie (4574)
520564 2007-01-30 21:01:00 im not too sure what i really want to do, but the Bachelor of Architectural Studies looks like a nice challenging course for me . I like design and construction/engineering too . I looked at Seek, Trademe Jobs and another site and there seems to be lots of software architects and not alot of commercial architecture jobs . Does anyone know what kind of Salary a junior architect would earn . What kind of career path would be open to me when i finish this course? Thank You!


Well, I was once, a long time ago (yes, it was the 1980s) an architecture student at Auckland . Because of how long ago this was (grey trousers were fashionable back then) my experience may not be too relevant, but there you go .

I did architecture for vague reasons, without finding out too much before hand . I wanted something vaguely creative, and couldn't bare the thought of anything else like law or accountancy . And for a couple of years I had a good time .

But then I found out a few things .

1] All the fun stuff I'd been doing for 2 years (design, visuals and so on) actually ends up being about 5% of what you do on the job . The rest is more nuts and bolts . If you've got a bent for technical drawing, like to make sure everything is right down to the last construction detail then well and good .

2] All of a sudden our tutors let us in on the fact that architecture (at least then) was considered the poorest paid "profession" in NZ . Not only that, but the schools were turning out more architects than the country needed (again, times may have changed) so that jobs weren't thick on the ground .

I left in my 3rd professional year (which doesn't include the intermediate year I had to do to get accepted into the school) but when my year graduated, in the first year after graduation I believe 3 out of about 60 found jobs .

Again, times may be different now but if you are considering this I highly recommend youo check out the facts of employment and the day to day working of being an architect and don't get seduced by the image of yourself in a converted loft designing $10 million dollar apartments as underlings bring you coffee and pastries .
Biggles (121)
520565 2007-01-30 22:12:00 I chose my prospective career on the basis of how much money I'll make . I dont see anything wrong with that although I also happen to like Accounting and Business so I guess thats a great combination .

I've seen too many retards start uni etc with the sole purpose of making big bucks at the end . All these people suddenly seem to think that if they become an accountant, they'll get paid huge sums of money . Too bad for them that each year there are more commerce graduates than art graduates . Luckily most of these retards drop out (~50%) after a year after figuring out their dreams of big money require intelligence and hard work . Some of them keep on doing it because a) their arrogant, b) Daddy is making them (this is a biggy), or c) heaven forbid they like getting drunk at university .

The big companies (KPMG, PWC etc) only take the very best, and by that, since there's so much competition, so if you're not getting straight A+ from the first year, good luck finding a decent job . Although I know someone (economics major) who's starting on 70k, but is already working 70 hour weeks .

I think the universities fool a lot of money out of people, but hey, everyone is allowed their extortion racket; BCom is theirs . Don't even get me started about Law/BCom conjoints . People make jokes about lawyers and accountants for a reason .

Moral of the story: don't do everything with the sole purpose of making money, you'll end up as a lawyer or accountant and trying to defend yourself against a wave of jokes .
DangerousDave (697)
520566 2007-01-30 23:32:00 I completed a BArch degree about 5 years ago. The course was 5 years long including the intermediate year. Probably only about 30% completed the degree, out the people who originally started the course. The course is very hard work, in line with a medical degree, but is incredibly satisfying. You do have to be very good at design and be able to take criticism. The course broke many people. The first day of the course we were told, that if we were doing it solely to make money, we should leave and go down to the law school, to sign up there. You can make lots of money if you re good, but you are best to go overseas, as you can make lots and lot of money in Europe. You have to work in a practice for 3 years before you can register yourself as an architect, and go to work on your own, where you can earn lots of money. Architects in NZ are not valued in this country, so the pay in NZ is not good, but you can make a comfortable living on it.
I however have not worked directly in the industry since I graduated, as I setup my own design business but it is not directly in architecture. However the course did help me develop a lot of my skills, and I have designed and built a few buildings.
rogerp (6864)
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