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Thread ID: 76433 2007-02-01 01:11:00 Mac or PC mabix (10146) PC World Chat
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521507 2007-02-04 09:26:00 why not open themselves up like the pc? if mac is meant to be so stable and easy to use i'm sure it couldn't hurt.


because cheap hardware and/or dodgey drivers can make any OS unstable
Greven (91)
521508 2007-02-04 09:30:00 because cheap hardware and/or dodgey drivers can make any OS unstable

so then the only reason windows users have "so many more problems" than mac users is because windows users are actually free to use their machine as they see fit.

so mac "just works, but don't you dare fiddle with it - infact, we won't let you, so instead of upgrading and giving money to retailers, we'll force you to buy via us, charge you a premium for it, and make sure you have to replace the whole thing" - that's how they make billions off a 5% market share: suckers

LOL hows that for marketing (www.youtube.com)
motorbyclist (188)
521509 2007-02-04 09:32:00 Uh...No, Don't do that old chap, Half your charm is your a Mac head.:D

You know me better then that, I of course will be dual booting.

P.S Almost made up your way today but the bike started have fuel issues around sanson so it was over to palmy for a few pints instead
plod (107)
521510 2007-02-04 09:49:00 You can upgrade a Mac in certain areas but not to the same degree than you can completely swap out the guts of a PC. If you want a powerful machine get the Intel Mac Pro Tower. From the point of a stable work station or a home user who may not be the most technically able person ( I know quite a lot of people in that category) it is actually a fairly sensible solution.

You can upgrade the RAM (cheaper 3rd party stuff)
swap out the hard drive (From any HD manufacturer)
upgrade the graphics card
add or use external hard drives
plug in perpheral devices (from any manufacturer)
use a wireless network or any network
etc, etc after you have purchased the computer if what your doing requires it. As for Mac versions of software, as I have previously stated
MS Office
Adobe/Macromedia
Final Cut Pro
Avid
Freebee stuff
Mac games
Just depends on what your after. Its only an issue for the home user if you believe in the myth.
Why bother with a Mac? If you like avoiding viruses/malware etc and don't necessarily like using Windows and prefer the Mac system and GUI which Windows is constantly trying to copy (just compare Vista with Tiger or Panther)

Maintaining much needed competition for MS is always a good place to start.
Now days Intel Macs can run Windows natively as well (cept for the games bit)

MS rips off plenty of dummies too ;)
winmacguy (3367)
521511 2007-02-04 09:53:00 You can upgrade a Mac in certain areas but not to the same degree than you can completely swap out the guts of a PC. If you want a powerful machine get the Intel Mac Pro Tower. From the point of a stable work station or a home user who may not be the most technically able person ( I know quite a lot of people in that category) it is actually a fairly sensible solution.

You can upgrade the RAM (cheaper 3rd party stuff)
swap out the hard drive (From any HD manufacturer)
upgrade the graphics card
add or use external hard drives
plug in perpheral devices (from any manufacturer)
use a wireless network or any network
etc, etc after you have purchased the computer if what your doing requires it. As for Mac versions of software, as I have previously stated
MS Office
Adobe/Macromedia
Final Cut Pro
Avid
Freebee stuff
Mac games
Just depends on what your after. Its only an issue for the home user if you believe in the myth.
Why bother with a Mac? If you like avoiding viruses/malware etc and don't necessarily like using Windows and prefer the Mac system and GUI which Windows is constantly trying to copy (just compare Vista with Tiger or Panther)

Maintaining much needed competition for MS is always a good place to start.
Now days Intel Macs can run Windows natively as well (cept for the games bit)

MS rips off plenty of dummies too ;)

swap cpu's as well, please don't forget the important stuff
plod (107)
521512 2007-02-04 10:07:00 swap cpu's as well, please don't forget the important stuff

Sorry, actually I wasn't aware that you could since I hadn't done one myself. Thanks for pointing that out.
winmacguy (3367)
521513 2007-02-04 10:17:00 You can upgrade a Mac in certain areas but not to the same degree than you can completely swap out the guts of a PC. If you want a powerful machine get the Intel Mac Pro Tower. From the point of a stable work station or a home user who may not be the most technically able person ( I know quite a lot of people in that category) it is actually a fairly sensible solution.

You can upgrade the RAM (cheaper 3rd party stuff)
swap out the hard drive (From any HD manufacturer)
upgrade the graphics card
add or use external hard drives
plug in perpheral devices (from any manufacturer)
use a wireless network or any network
etc, etc after you have purchased the computer if what your doing requires it. As for Mac versions of software, as I have previously stated
MS Office
Adobe/Macromedia
Final Cut Pro
Avid
Freebee stuff
Mac games
Just depends on what your after. Its only an issue for the home user if you believe in the myth.
Why bother with a Mac? If you like avoiding viruses/malware etc and don't necessarily like using Windows and prefer the Mac system and GUI which Windows is constantly trying to copy (just compare Vista with Tiger or Panther)

Maintaining much needed competition for MS is always a good place to start.
Now days Intel Macs can run Windows natively as well (cept for the games bit)

MS rips off plenty of dummies too ;)


The tragic thing about all this is I could promote a Mac 1000 times better then you without even trying, and I'm only mildly impressed by them. (Hey, I'd rate em better then a Dell, thats a start, Not much of a start but well, there you go)


Now, That aside for a few minutes, You claim to be creative, Have stated your a graphic artist, and that you have mad skills at Photoshop, How about showing us some of your work? (Just out of interest, Not trying to shoot you down, Been there, done that)
Metla (12)
521514 2007-02-04 10:19:00 You know me better then that, I of course will be dual booting.

P.S Almost made up your way today but the bike started have fuel issues around sanson so it was over to palmy for a few pints instead


Swish, feel free to give me a holler next time your in these parts, or there abouts.
Metla (12)
521515 2007-02-04 10:39:00 The tragic thing about all this is I could promote a Mac 1000 times better then you without even trying, and I'm only mildly impressed by them. (Hey, I'd rate em better then a Dell, thats a start, Not much of a start but well, there you go)


Now, That aside for a few minutes, You claim to be creative, Have stated your a graphic artist, and that you have mad skills at Photoshop, How about showing us some of your work? (Just out of interest, Not trying to shoot you down, Been there, done that)

I wish I did have mad skills in Photoshop. Most of the better stuff I have done was in design school about 2 or so years ago. My abilities are more in the production and layout areas (InDesign and Freehand).

You probably could "sell" a Mac better than me and you wouldn't be the only person who could.
winmacguy (3367)
521516 2007-02-04 12:20:00 Mate WinMacGuy.

I started with a Burroughs B3500 and programming in COBOL at work. This is a mainframe computer. This occupied a room bigger than my whole house.

My first personal computer was a Sega SC3000. This came with a version of the basic programming language.

Around that time I used an Apple II at work

Upgraded to an Amstrad PC20. Sold that and went to a IMB compatable 386 with a whole 10 MB hard drive. Compucon as I remember. This came with MSDOS 3.3 and GWBASIC. Upgraded to a 486 with a whole 2 megs RAM and MSDOS 6.23.

At work they wanted to get an IBM compatible in the Kiwifruit industry and also wanted to convert all info they currently had. I managed to do this.

Then I learned more. I learned to build a PC for myself and others.

So I am the stage where I have a Vista capable computer but I see no need to buy Vista.

My point here is this:-

1: Your user name being WinMacGuy tends to make me think you have a foot in both camps.

2: You appear to ramming MACs down the gullet to those that just want help with a PC.

3: Taken fom another post you made

"A system that old is going to be a bit of a mission. I suggest you PM plod or maccrazy who are the other mac regulars (current users) on this site. I have a feeling that setting up a connection with XP via apple talk might be a bit of a fiddle. The oldest system I have used was OS 9.2 which is what I started on."

I take it that you never solved the problem that Agent 24 had or still has.

I certainly do not mind that you have an Apple product. This is your decision. Everyone has the right to vote with their wallet or feet.
Sweep (90)
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