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Thread ID: 76429	2007-02-01 00:15:00	Mac or PC	Bryan (147)	PC World Chat

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521328	2007-02-01 00:43:00	As a rule Mac OS is more secure and stable than XP or Vista due to its design. One small catch with switching from PC to Mac unless you run Parallels is that you would need to get the Mac version of any 3rd party software that didn't already come with your machine- Photoshop/elements etc since the PC version won't run on Mac OS I reckon macs are the way to go for a home machine- simple, you turn it on and it works, and it comes with everything you need for media, home video, email, internet (excpet a modem, avliable seperatley) etcetc. If you need a machine you like to play with, or it needs to be compatibile with others, then go Windows Macs are the most reliable computers you can gt, not to mention the best looking I myself perfer mac and have a mac laptop, but i use a windows desktop. However, now that Apple use Intel Procssors you can either use Apples own free Boot Camp, for running Windows on its own on a mac, or Parallels, which is for running mac and windows side by side at the end of the day, if you want something simple and easy go mac if you want a constant crasher go windows	mabix (10146)
521329	2007-02-01 00:46:00	Buttttt!!! Don't they both have hard drives? Couldn't a WINPC HDD be formatted to accept MAC software? This is where I get confused. If you were to purchase an addtional large capacity HD from a good 3rd party supplier you then just format for either Mac or PC Getting a little bit technical. I am not sure if a pre loved PC hard drive can be fitted to a Mac which would actually defeat the purpose of buying the Mac in the first place, how ever you can connect and share a PC hard drive with a Mac. Yes both systems come with HDs	winmacguy (3367)
521330	2007-02-01 00:54:00	Yes, if ive got what you mean right, .osx86project.org can show you how to run mac os x on your pc. have fun hunting drivers.	mabix (10146)
521331	2007-02-01 02:23:00	if you want a constant crasher go windows I have a Windows 95 pc and its been on constantly for about 4 years and NEVER crashes. Windows CAN be pretty stable. Mac's have always been "closed" architecture so if you copy it, we will slam a lawsuit on you. The pc has always been open (except for the IBM PS/2 :) ) and thats one reason why there are 20X more pc's out there than Mac's.	dolby digital (5073)
521332	2007-02-01 03:09:00	I have a Windows 95 pc and its been on constantly for about 4 years and NEVER crashes. Windows CAN be pretty stable. Mac's have always been "closed" architecture so if you copy it, we will slam a lawsuit on you. The pc has always been open (except for the IBM PS/2 :) ) and thats one reason why there are 20X more pc's out there than Mac's. I think your confusing "open" with licensed. The only true "open" software available today are the various distros of Linux. Windows is no more "open" than Mac. Microsoft does allow selected companies to view certain parts of its code but they are not allowed to make changes to it. Anybody who wants to pay the Apple developers fee can do so and become an Apple Certified Developer - this includes the Mac Business Unit at Microsoft who develop MS Office for Mac. Apple are just very selective in the way they ad the code to the OS for better or for worse. A bit of a brief generalised history The reason there are nearly a billion PC users and only about 20 million Mac users around the world was that back in the early 80s when MS wanted to Licence DOS to Apple and get Apple to licence the manufacturing rights of their hardware to anyone who would listen, Steve flatly refused so Bill did a bit of wheeling and dealing with IBM to liscence an application he didnt actually have the rights to (or something like that) and got IBM to pay him about 20$ for every IBM compatible PC sold. Apple kept producing very expensive boxes and IBM manfactured the cheap ones. A lot of developers also left Apple and just after 1984 Steve got booted out of Apple. Now 24 or so years later things are considerably different. Steve returned to Apple in 1997 as an iCEO, in 1998 the first G3 iMac designed by Jonathan Ive with OS9 was marketed, in 2001 OS X was released , in 2001 the first iPod was released and it has all been uphill to success since then.	winmacguy (3367)
521333	2007-02-01 05:25:00	Buttttt!!! Don't they both have hard drives? Couldn't a WINPC HDD be formatted to accept MAC software? This is where I get confused . Mac OS does run on a different file system to Windows and you can format the hard disks in Macs to a different file system . However, this only affects how files are stored, not how they are understood by the operating system . Apple's computers now use Intel processors like many Windows based computers . However, once again, this just affects how the information is processed, not how the operating system deals with this information . Apple also has PowerPC versions of Mac OS X for those running systems manufactured prior to 2006 . This is a totally different processor architecture, but all the applications that have been compiled for both kinds of processors will work on either version of Mac OS X . Both Windows and Mac OS X use the hard disk, processor, RAM and graphics card to carry out their functions, but they are just tools used to carry out a job . Each operating system will send different kinds of information to be processed by the processor and will store different results on the hard disk . It is similar to the reasons you can't play QuickTime movies in Windows Media Player or WMV files in QT . A video of each format may look very similar on screen, but the way they are compressed, how extra features such as subtitles etc are stored may be very different .	maccrazy (6741)
521334	2007-02-01 05:48:00	A bit of a brief generalised history The reason there are nearly a billion PC users and only about 20 million Mac users around the world was that back in the early 80s when MS wanted to Licence DOS to Apple and get Apple to licence the manufacturing rights of their hardware to anyone who would listen, Steve flatly refused so Bill did a bit of wheeling and dealing with IBM to liscence an application he didnt actually have the rights to (or something like that) and got IBM to pay him about 20$ for every IBM compatible PC sold. Apple kept producing very expensive boxes and IBM manfactured the cheap ones. A lot of developers also left Apple and just after 1984 Steve got booted out of Apple. Now 24 or so years later things are considerably different. Steve returned to Apple in 1997 as an iCEO, in 1998 the first G3 iMac designed by Jonathan Ive with OS9 was marketed, in 2001 OS X was released , in 2001 the first iPod was released and it has all been uphill to success since then. That's interesting. What did Stevo do between '84 and '97?	allblack (6574)
521335	2007-02-01 05:50:00	Tranny streetworker.	Metla (12)
521336	2007-02-01 05:52:00	He bought The Graphics Group and later named it Pixar and also created a new computer company called NeXT. Apple later bought NeXT and Steve Jobs returned to Apple.	maccrazy (6741)
521337	2007-02-01 06:12:00	That's interesting. What did Stevo do between '84 and '97? He negotiated a deal with George Lucas to buy part of the animation department which George was trying to flog off for about $100 Million to pay for his divorce settlement for $10 Million after some stiff negotiating (Steve's great skill) This was to become Pixar - Toy Story, Cars etc It contains a lot of the creative old guard from Disney. When Pixar when public Steve made a couple more Billion dollars. Steve recently sold Pixar back to Disney although Pixar is still independent from Disney and Steve is now on Disney's board of directors as the biggest single shareholder. Steve only gets paid $1 in salary from Apple although he does get restricted stock options (part of the investigation) and a corporate jet since his return to Apple in 1997. While he was in exile from Apple he also started up a small company called NeXT which partly developed an OS called NeXT OS which as we all know has Unix underpinnings. NeXT was not overly successful but had a very good cube designed PC called the NeXT box which they were trying to sell to universities for around $100 K each. Steve later managed to sell himself and the NeXT OS back to Apple in 1997 for about $400 million I think when he returned.	winmacguy (3367)
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