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Thread ID: 77056	2007-02-25 08:24:00	Who wants to bet ACC are going to put their fees up?	Shortcircuit (1666)	PC World Chat

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528048	2007-02-25 08:24:00	Just saw that 'tasteful' ACC advert again on the box. Call me cynical, but what's the point of it unless they are softening us up for another bump in premiums (For those of you not self employed- it's only a month to the end of the financial year as well), good timing :thumbs:	Shortcircuit (1666)
528049	2007-02-25 10:50:00	Just saw that 'tasteful' ACC advert again on the box. Call me cynical, but what's the point of it unless they are softening us up for another bump in premiums (For those of you not self employed- it's only a month to the end of the financial year as well), good timing :thumbs: Haven't seen the advert yet but my brother-in-law probably needs a raise as well.	mikebartnz (21)
528050	2007-02-25 18:55:00	Yes, when big corps put on touchy feely ads it usually means they are going to be sold, or sell some shares. But we already own ACC ! I think it is scandulous for them to be spending our money they say they are short of on tv ads. You may be right ! Regards Digby	Digby (677)
528051	2007-02-25 20:04:00	Of course there a GOV monopoly and they can and will put up their rates. Helen made sure that there was no competition as soon as she got in power in 1999..	paulw (1826)
528052	2007-02-25 21:05:00	Takes me back to a few quotes by Robert Heinlein: "There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him." - Robert A. Heinlein "Democracy is four wolves and a sheep voting on dinner." - Robert A. Heinlein "Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed." - Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long "There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch." - Robert A. Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress [This one is also known as "tanstaafl"] The first and third one (above) are possibly the most relevant here ACC levies are a form of taxation - and as a self-employed IT contractor, I strongly object to being stung for an employer levy as well as an employee levy every year!! OK, my income fluctuates a bit from year to year (mostly upwards ;) ) but every year they seem to increase rate at which the levies are charged (certainly my invoice from them seems much higher every year, irrespective of my income)- can't remember when I last made an ACC claim!! Especially anywhere near the tune of what I pay every year!!! It's not just the dollars, it's the paperwork and having to remember every damn year to allow for ACC. The trouble with a No Fault system is that no-one learns from their mistakes or takes responsibility for their own behaviour, so everyone pays more every year because the cost of claims are higher every year. I would far prefer having compulsory insurance through a private provider (which was starting to happen a few years ago when Helen put and end to it). Being able to find the cheapest provider based on my own claims history (like most other insurances) is a far fairer system. Of course, you could do what one of my associates does each year (not that I am condoning this) - he doesn't pay until he gets a letter from Baycorp, then sends a cheque for the full amount. So he gets uses of his own money and no bad record at Baycorp...	johcar (6283)
528053	2007-02-25 22:33:00	Takes me back to a few quotes by Robert Heinlein: "There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him." - Robert A. Heinlein "Democracy is four wolves and a sheep voting on dinner." - Robert A. Heinlein "Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed." - Robert A. Heinlein, The Notebooks of Lazarus Long "There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch." - Robert A. Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress [This one is also known as "tanstaafl"] The first and third one (above) are possibly the most relevant here ACC levies are a form of taxation - and as a self-employed IT contractor, I strongly object to being stung for an employer levy as well as an employee levy every year!! OK, my income fluctuates a bit from year to year (mostly upwards ;) ) but every year they seem to increase rate at which the levies are charged (certainly my invoice from them seems much higher every year, irrespective of my income)- can't remember when I last made an ACC claim!! Especially anywhere near the tune of what I pay every year!!! It's not just the dollars, it's the paperwork and having to remember every damn year to allow for ACC. The trouble with a No Fault system is that no-one learns from their mistakes or takes responsibility for their own behaviour, so everyone pays more every year because the cost of claims are higher every year. I would far prefer having compulsory insurance through a private provider (which was starting to happen a few years ago when Helen put and end to it). Being able to find the cheapest provider based on my own claims history (like most other insurances) is a far fairer system. Of course, you could do what one of my associates does each year (not that I am condoning this) - he doesn't pay until he gets a letter from Baycorp, then sends a cheque for the full amount. So he gets uses of his own money and no bad record at Baycorp... QFT	SolMiester (139)
528054	2007-02-25 23:14:00	QFTShort for....???	johcar (6283)
528055	2007-02-26 07:29:00	Same boat as you johcar. Try ringing them and telling them your work is part-time.	Antmannz (6583)
528056	2007-02-26 08:21:00	Short for....??? SolMiester copied a whole lenghy post to add 3 letters below it. Short is an interesting word here.	Laura (43)
528057	2007-02-26 08:37:00	SolMiester copied a whole lenghy post to add 3 letters below it. Short is an interesting word here. He quoted the entire post in order to highlight the relevant sentence without taking it out of context. QFT stands for Quoted for truth.	Metla (12)
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